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Just noticed in a few pictures that i've seen the don on a008 and what seem to be a D.O.T radial drag tire? Is that the case or are they some sort of other tire, just wondering so i can see if i can squeeze a little more out the mini next year? do you know where to get them from or what make they are? and size?

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they are indeed DOT drag radials , i beleive these are the smallest rolling radius 13" tyres available as a drag radial,as you probably noticed they are still very tall, with a circumference of 72 ish inches, so makes for some big gearing .

the problem is getting a wrinkle wall tyre in a light enough carcae so it works on a mini, the tyres on the Don, have no chance of wrinkling, and after experimenting i found that the optimum preasure to run is 10 lbs , at this the tyre has most contact with the road across its width.

they are M+h racemaster ,


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pffffft what did carl just say?!


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basically, they don't do them in a 10" and they make the don (along with a lot of other things) go very fast *wink* Cool!!!

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Carl, where did they come from? States?

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i have hoosier's in 10''...

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On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


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On 5th Sep, 2008 rubicon said:
i have hoosier's in 10''...


I don't think they make a 10" road legal slick? The DONs tyres are road legal.

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What about running wet slicks??

Are these road legal??

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On 5th Sep, 2008 Ben H said:
On 5th Sep, 2008 rubicon said:
i have hoosier's in 10''...


I don't think they make a 10" road legal slick? The DONs tyres are road legal.


ben your right they dont,lol

be good if they did!

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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Avon do a DOT slick in 10" they are 165/70/10's not sure if they are drag tyres though :)

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possibly these ?

id need a 3.7 diff to give me the same gearing as i have with a 3.1 and 12 inch wheels !

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road legal is questionable? Isn't the MOT something like 65% tread depth over the middle of the wheel? They are a DOT tyre, but i'm not sure how many mot bays would pass them. You know what the old mot bays are like, normally grumpy old men who like to say that whole in your floor is within 4" of a suspension mount....bla bla bla....arghh.....But i wonder what compound the avons are? if there soft enough they could be used for drag racing? any more info?

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On 6th Sep, 2008 ministef1 said:
road legal is questionable? Isn't the MOT something like 65% tread depth over the middle of the wheel?


1.6mm tread depth across 75% of the tyre.

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On 6th Sep, 2008 ministef1 said:
road legal is questionable? Isn't the MOT something like 65% tread depth over the middle of the wheel? They are a DOT tyre, but i'm not sure how many mot bays would pass them. You know what the old mot bays are like, normally grumpy old men who like to say that whole in your floor is within 4" of a suspension mount....bla bla bla....arghh.....But i wonder what compound the avons are? if there soft enough they could be used for drag racing? any more info?


Yes, but if the tyre design does not have tread to wear then the MOT man can't do anything, if he tried to then he could loose his license for failing you incorrectly. Mind you I wouldn't be using them for an mot anyway, I bet they are dreadfull to drive with on the road.

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are they worth it i terms of 60 ft tom ?do you have a comparison between the 48 's and the m&h's ?

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HOld on folks, it cost me £300 to find out if these tyres were any good, so if anyone would like to spend said monies on a pair they will find out,lol.


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If ya do some digging the said 60 foot times are there to be found! LOL
My slicks were alot of money but they have been worth every penny! As im sure carl is of the same opinion!


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Cheap slicks in 13s are prob best to try and find either a Formula BMW or Formula Renault team. They all use these and will normally let them go for reasonable money. Not for the street legal class though. I have a source for p34 tyrell front wheels (the 6 wheeler f1 car) and they are 10 inch but are also 10 inch wide which is prob a tad wide?!!


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ah heres loads of stuff

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=232924

2.28 and 2.13 seem to be the fastest

thats nic 550kg lsd and 32's i think ,
and tom,440 kg lsd ,emerald traction control ? and steam roller tyres .

but after the 60 ft ,this all still makes a big diff , if i can spin up to 70 odd with my poxy psi ,then i should think nic and tom would spin a lot higher without the grip ,so the 60 ft is only the start of the advantage given by some sticky rubber..

Edited by robert on 7th Sep, 2008.

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robert, try comparing the magnitude of the average rate of acceleration for varous cars between the start and the 1/8th and between teh 1/8th and the 1/4

the latter is a decent indication of the cars power to weight ratio, the former is a good indicatio of the cars setup (and driver)assumign the latter between the two cars is the same *wink* im not posting my figures as it shows how shockingly bad everything about my car (including me) is except the engine *tongue* still, very interesting tho!

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good point denis ,
im suprised nics 60ft is as close with much more weight , but the lower the 60 ft gets ,the harder to lower it still ,i think toms wider taller bigger contact patch super sticky tyres probably pay off all the way up the track ,

i wonder how well the softest of these would work , they are a bit tall though .



http://www.ears.co.uk/motorsport/acatalog/...d_Slick_59.html

Edited by robert on 8th Sep, 2008.

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On 8th Sep, 2008 robert said:

i wonder how well the softest of these would work , they are a bit tall though .



http://www.ears.co.uk/motorsport/acatalog/...d_Slick_59.html


Depends what you are trying achieve! As a road legal tyre okay but as a drag racing one there are many better alternatives

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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the tyres on Don, are in need of a long burnout to acheive max traction, somerging that is very difficult to acheive with no weight over the rear wheels to hold it back on the handbrake, subsequently really good 60ft times [ sub 2 secs] is all but a dream, that couples with the 100 hp in 1000 revs really does make it difficult to stop wheelspin,

but Tom did mention that he thought the tyres were now scrubbing in nicely and appeared to be getting better , i accept his oppinion on this , but i truley dont think the tyres are as good as i thought they would be , probably mainly to do with the load rating of the carcas preventing any wrinkle at launch.

They certainly are not super sticky as Robert suggested. not even after Toms best efforts to warm them up,

now if only we could hitch the rear up to a truck for the burnout,lol.


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stick it to the twinnie and whack it in reverse.....if it has one...or even two...ahh thats confusing!!


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tie it to a lamp post......lol

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)

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