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Ben.

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Hallo!

Im trying to working out how the fook to lower my car.

I have Gaz coilovers with lowered springs, got them from Hunddersfeild spares a while back but they didnt come with instructions.

In which way do you adjust the coilover to lower the car, as the only adjustment I can see is just compressing the spring, this doesnt shorten the actual body of the shock so I cant see how this will lower the car?

If anyone has any of these type coilovers could you describe how you went about lowering the car?



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You lower the base height of the spring to lower the car, the damper will not hold the car up. Unlock the lock rings and wind them down.


Ben.

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Ah rite, cheers.

Like so?



I'l go try it, see what happens.

Cheers.



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Yup thats it, just make sure that the damper doesnt bottom out on the bump stop, thats just too low lol.


Ben.

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Then these coilovers are the biggest piece of shit!

I have 1 inch of travel. But I need to lower it another 3 inches. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Its a fucking joke!

So yeah,

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they look like the standard lengh coilovers, I think you need the shortened version!

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Ben.

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Atleast my tyres wont rub.....





Thats it bottoming out...

Anyone want to buy some Gaz coilovers?!

What coilovers are people like Nic using? I know his car is slammed, and im sure hes using coilovers on the rear with a beam axle.

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Ben.

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On 30th Jan, 2009 ministef1 said:
they look like the standard lengh coilovers, I think you need the shortened version!


Is it just the spring thats shorter? Or is the whole body of the shock shorter? Otherwise it wont solve the bottoming out problem.

I stated with huddersfirld that I wanted the ones for lowered Mini's, and theyve given me these, bastards...



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short hight coilovers are about an inch lower, that seems odd that its that heigh, how much have you cut off of your arches though? seems quite abit,

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Ben.

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Yeah its gay isnt it.

I didnt take off ridiculous amounts when doing it. But still, the car is pointing downwards at the front, where the rear is so much higher, and you can see from the sill height its still pretty high!



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http://www.minispares-online.co.uk/?cat_id...=62&prod_id=580 this may solve your problem :) extra lowered rear set from protec. also how long is the body of the shock? because the size between lowered and std is diffrent may help to find out if they are std or lowered :)

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You don't adjust the height of the car by winding down the springs. That's for adjusting the spring tension.

You BUY the correct height for starters.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 30th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:
You don't adjust the height of the car by winding down the springs. That's for adjusting the spring tension.

You BUY the correct height for starters.


Nah you make adjustments by spinning the collar lower down the body of the shock so the coil isnt as compressed, when the car is back on its wheels with load it effectively makes the car lower as the shock is compressed more, but reduces travel. But yeah that does fook up the spring rates!




These types would be best because you can physically wind the lower shock mounth up the body on the thread, making the coilover shorter (making the car lower) but not effecting the spring rates!!


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On 30th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:
You don't adjust the height of the car by winding down the springs. That's for adjusting the spring tension.

You BUY the correct height for starters.


Yeah thats what I thought, but I did ask the guy when I bought them if they'd be suitable for an extremely low car, and he said they would, prick lied to me, LIIIIIES!

I doubt I can take them back now aswell, was almost two years ago I bought them.

Almost £400 down the shitter!



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On 30th Jan, 2009 richminiturbo. said:



On 30th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:
You don't adjust the height of the car by winding down the springs. That's for adjusting the spring tension.

You BUY the correct height for starters.


Nah you make adjustments by spinning the collar lower down the body of the shock so the coil isnt as compressed, when the car is back on its wheels with load it effectively makes the car lower as the shock is compressed more, but reduces travel. But yeah that does fook up the spring rates!

These types would be best because you can physically wind the lower shock mounth up the body on the thread, making the coilover shorter (making the car lower) but not effecting the spring rates!!



The compression of the coil depends only on the weight resting on it. Moving the platform does not affect the spring rate!

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On 30th Jan, 2009 h4887 said:



On 30th Jan, 2009 richminiturbo. said:



On 30th Jan, 2009 Vegard said:
You don't adjust the height of the car by winding down the springs. That's for adjusting the spring tension.

You BUY the correct height for starters.


Nah you make adjustments by spinning the collar lower down the body of the shock so the coil isnt as compressed, when the car is back on its wheels with load it effectively makes the car lower as the shock is compressed more, but reduces travel. But yeah that does fook up the spring rates!

These types would be best because you can physically wind the lower shock mounth up the body on the thread, making the coilover shorter (making the car lower) but not effecting the spring rates!!



The compression of the coil depends only on the weight resting on it. Moving the platform does not affect the spring rate!


Agreed, it adjusts the corner weight

Paul

I seriously doubt it!


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D'oh, double post

Edited by paul wiginton on 30th Jan, 2009.

I seriously doubt it!


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Ive got some really old spax things, I dont think they even were meant for a mini. They were old and secondhand when I got them

Im using 9" 125lb springs on mine now

Edited by Nic on 30th Jan, 2009.


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i thought you had 9 inches when you asked me last night nic .

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On 30th Jan, 2009 Nic said:
Ive got some really old spax things, I dont think they even were meant for a mini. They were old and secondhand when I got them

Im using 9" 125lb springs on mine now


Ah I see, hmmmm.

When I measure these ones, they are 14" between the top of the arch and the stud on the hub.

Thats annoying, and is definatly going to set back my project by a few months! Gay!

Cheers for the advice chaps,

Ben.



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Or if you didnt want to spent out on new coilovers i guess you could turret the arches, but make the turrets sit higher that the standard top mount height. So would lowwer the mini that way...


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I'm using protec on the rears to, i believe these are the lightest on the mini market? there aluminium bodied?

correct me if i'm wrong though!!!

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On 31st Jan, 2009 tomf said:
Or if you didnt want to spent out on new coilovers i guess you could turret the arches, but make the turrets sit higher that the standard top mount height. So would lowwer the mini that way...


Yeah I have thought that, but dont really want to as the boot sprayed.

On 31st Jan, 2009 ministef1 said:
I'm using protec on the rears to, i believe these are the lightest on the mini market? there aluminium bodied?

correct me if i'm wrong though!!!


What ones have you got? The extra low ones like Paul linked?



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Ben.

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This just gets worse...

Ive just messed about jacking the wheel up with no coilover, to see what size coilovers I need to get. And the fooking radius arm hits the body with about 3 inches between the arch and tyre!

I think im just gonna buy a Corsa!



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Don't forget whatever wheelarches you use will come out to the tyre, if you have tubbed the arches it will look daft without wheelarches on.
The DON without spats on looks daft too


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