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 807 Posts Member #: 224 Post Whore Katy TEXAS |
6th Nov, 2012 at 05:28:37pm
Anyone got any thoughts on these ?
BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
6th Nov, 2012 at 05:39:57pm
Even the most powerful cars on here don't damage ordinary straight cut gears, so not sure really who they are aimed at.
On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
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 2054 Posts Member #: 452 Post Whore Chester, UK |
6th Nov, 2012 at 06:35:34pm
"a new design" chunkier circle :)
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 736 Posts Member #: 1865 Post Whore Norwich, Norfolk |
6th Nov, 2012 at 06:35:40pm
I've got a minispares primary and roller bearing idler on ebay if your interested. |
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 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
6th Nov, 2012 at 07:16:51pm
On 6th Nov, 2012 minimole23 said:
Even the most powerful cars on here don't damage ordinary straight cut gears, so not sure really who they are aimed at. Minispares ones are the best value. Correct, but its nice to see newer developments. Still been work on.. I would spend your money on a minispares clubman set, and just run the helical drops, they will survive and its been well proven with power outputs over 190 HP and over 5000 miles, the SC gearset can't climb over themselves, with the torque output from the engine tranfering to the drop gears and to the SC gears in the box. Plus they are very quite, you dott get screaming like the SC drops
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2054 Posts Member #: 452 Post Whore Chester, UK |
6th Nov, 2012 at 07:38:37pm
On 6th Nov, 2012 BENROSS said:
you dott get screaming like the SC drops is someone getting old 
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 134 Posts Member #: 9579 Advanced Member Tadley, North Hampshire |
6th Nov, 2012 at 09:18:59pm
Simon, I'm watching your gearbox as may well be interested at the right price. Perhaps give the drop gears a miss though after Benross' comments above.
On 6th Nov, 2012 Simon said:
I've got a minispares primary and roller bearing idler on ebay if your interested. My build thread: http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=440970 |
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9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
6th Nov, 2012 at 11:14:06pm
T@z its this bloody handspree tablet spell correcting ding dong its pissing me off
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Site Admin  15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
6th Nov, 2012 at 11:24:00pm
On 6th Nov, 2012 BENROSS said:
Yes getting older but look 20 ...lol There goes the bloody spell check again, should be 120.... !!!!!!!!
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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807 Posts Member #: 224 Post Whore Katy TEXAS |
6th Nov, 2012 at 11:59:23pm
lol 120,
On 6th Nov, 2012 BENROSS said:
On 6th Nov, 2012 minimole23 said:
Even the most powerful cars on here don't damage ordinary straight cut gears, so not sure really who they are aimed at. Minispares ones are the best value. Correct, but its nice to see newer developments. Still been work on.. I would spend your money on a minispares clubman set, and just run the helical drops, they will survive and its been well proven with power outputs over 190 HP and over 5000 miles, the SC gearset can't climb over themselves, with the torque output from the engine tranfering to the drop gears and to the SC gears in the box. Plus they are very quite, you dott get screaming like the SC drops Edited by Brocky on 7th Nov, 2012. BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....
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 1434 Posts Member #: 8466 Post Whore Mansfield |
7th Nov, 2012 at 03:50:12pm
Do you think the wider profile will be quiter or louder? Class C 3rd Place Avon 2011 14.18 @101mph |
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807 Posts Member #: 224 Post Whore Katy TEXAS |
7th Nov, 2012 at 04:28:48pm
Interesting point,
BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....
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 2742 Posts Member #: 637 Post Whore Hertfordshire |
7th Nov, 2012 at 05:36:08pm
i think the helical ones are quieter due to the larger contact area. My build thread..
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9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
7th Nov, 2012 at 06:00:54pm
On 6th Nov, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
On 6th Nov, 2012 BENROSS said:
Yes getting older but look 20 ...lol There goes the bloody spell check again, should be 120.... !!!!!!!! Thanks Tom....lol
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 261 Posts Member #: 713 Senior Member Western Australia |
8th Nov, 2012 at 01:43:22am
On 7th Nov, 2012 JT said:
i think the helical ones are quieter due to the larger contact area. No, I think it's because the two faces of a helical gear mesh progressively, whereas in straight cut gears the two flat faces slap against each other. That being the case, the noise would be unabated with the wider gears. Perhaps just a different pitch. On 24th Dec, 2008 Nic said:
eyh? im drubj but very confused##]#IU |
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807 Posts Member #: 224 Post Whore Katy TEXAS |
8th Nov, 2012 at 01:59:43am
Agreed and there is also more that 1 or 2 teeth in contact at one time due to the helix BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....
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 1346 Posts Member #: 2340 Post Whore Dublin Ireland |
9th Nov, 2012 at 12:09:30pm
What about the super sonic oil !!! On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:
I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers. ______________________________________________________ |
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 5329 Posts Member #: 140 Proven 200+bhp & Avon Park 05,06,07 Class D 3rd place |
10th Nov, 2012 at 12:38:42am
I just run normal size drops in mine so that gives you an idea what the normal ones take. Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
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807 Posts Member #: 224 Post Whore Katy TEXAS |
10th Nov, 2012 at 01:40:26am
Hi Matt,
Edited by Brocky on 10th Nov, 2012. BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
10th Nov, 2012 at 06:06:12am
I like that they have thought out side the box to bring improvements but imo the normal sized ones are good enough for now proven by the fact alot of users on here at or above 200nanas have not seen failures that i known of
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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 7765 Posts Member #: 74 I pick holes in everything.. Chief ancient post excavator |
10th Nov, 2012 at 08:49:27am
The good thing with this new setup is that it makes the casing survive if anything goes wrong with the idler.
On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
10th Nov, 2012 at 04:48:43pm
On 9th Nov, 2012 PaulH said:
What about the super sonic oil !!! 
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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134 Posts Member #: 9579 Advanced Member Tadley, North Hampshire |
13th Nov, 2012 at 12:19:24pm
So spoke with MED today regarding a complete new box for the Frog, given that they are a recommended supplier on Slark Race Engineering's website and I hold them in high regard. I said having mashed the laygear in my standard SPi box, I was looking to upgrade to straight cut as a minimum, plus whatever else they recommended. Was surprised to hear Steve at MED say that in his opinion the drop gears are the weak point (I'm also running standard drops at the moment) and that the new roller bearing wider variant was brought in to deal with an Achilles heel even for the straight cut variant. He was surprised that my box has failed in the manner it has.
My build thread: http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=440970 |
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 1745 Posts Member #: 375 Post Whore Leicestershire |
13th Nov, 2012 at 01:38:11pm
I use the older med roller bearing drops. They haven't caused any problems and I'm not over worried that they will break either. I did change the bearing when I rebuilt the box last year.
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 7265 Posts Member #: 1268 The Boom Boom speaker Police! Essex |
13th Nov, 2012 at 03:12:19pm
I wonder what they'd make of Roberts helical drops and 230 odd nanas.
In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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