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But is the Technician who services a $2.5million CT scanner and signs that it is in full working order, it complies with FDA regulations and certifies that it can be used for medical examinations the same as the Technician who fiited my car alarm??

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On 28th of Feb, 2007 at 07:42pm RogerM said:



Where I work we have many, many, many folks with letters after their name which wouldn't know one end of a combination spanner from a plasma cutter and their design ability it roughly that of a brick, not worht a wank!!!!

What is important for an engineer is knowledge, judgment, experience and most importantly feel........



must say i agree with Roger,

I work in RF electronic's and i get completly F**ked off with design engineers that are paid over twice what i am, designing something, building one, then assuming the next upteen thousand will all work exactly the same as their "gold sample" the upshot being i have to change the design, respec components, and basicly finish their half arsed attempt.

My life would be 100% easier if it wasn't for their TOTAL lack of common sense and foresight, and their total bastard disbelief that things occur in the real world that cant be "simulated or calculated"

Edited by Joe C on 28th Feb, 2007.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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On 28th of Feb, 2007 at 07:40pm British Open Classic said:
I wrote a big long reply to this but I decided to delete it and replace it with the following:

If you do not consider yourself in a position to sign off technical design certificates then your not an Engineer.

Edit: despite working in aerospace engineering & being involved in engineering design reviews, I don't consider myself to be an Engineer, as at the end of the day I am not the one signing of the equipment.


I have to agree wholly with you on that one. I am just finishing my final year of college to enter the aircraft industry and hopefully obtaining my B2 license in a couple of years. At that point I will be signing off jobs done as airworthy- if anything goes wrong, I and only I am to blame for that fault.
To me an engineer is someone who takes full responsibility for the job done, and performs jobs of some magnitude.
Ergo- aircraft mechanic, car mechanic etc. all perform jobs where a failure to work to standards can result in the loss of life.
A plumber failing to live up to standards tends not to be life threatening!

On a side note, it's nice to see another Bristolian. Bit of a coincidence with the aircraft thing tho!

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On 28th of Feb, 2007 at 08:06pm mini13 said:


My life would be 100% easier if it wasn't for their TOTAL lack of common sense and foresight, and their total bastard disbelief that things occur in the real world that cant be "simulated or calculated"



lmfao.... sounds like my life!!

The $2.5million piece I got called out of bed for at 5am this morning doesn't have an OFF switch, The turds were sure their firmware would be Soooooooo good that you cant turn it off if the computer or firmware locks.
Do you know how many times over the last 20 years I have been able to go back to sleep after telling them to turn the damn thing off and see if it works??

Edited by Turbo Tel on 28th Feb, 2007.

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You will not get everyone to agree on this.

Those that are accredited or working towards will sign.

Those that are not who consider that they work as Engineers will not.

I think we should add this to the list of things that we do not discuss on TM, together with politics, religion, climate change and Tom's love life.

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imho....
having letters after your name doesn't mean anything, other than you have potentially wasted 4 years plus of your life. look at doctors, they spend over 6 years to be called " DR " then spend god knows how long working towards being called " MR " again.
I do however agree that the term " engineer " is over used and consequentially now undervalued. So i would sign and then again i would not...... On a different note but somewhat on the same lines, i am a mechanic, not a fitter a technician or a mechanical engineer. I hated being called a technician when i worked for VW, i now work for an independent where i do everything from mot's to welding and all in-between. I'm also the guy that everyone asks for help when they get stuck. young mechanics replace parts now, they don't repair because they are not trained to do so..... I'm ranting now so i will stop


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Its a good discussion, nobody is getting upset so i say leave be *smiley*

It just shows what a diverse place TM is and how everybody is actually allowed there on opinion.


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ive always said i am a voice and data engineer due to thats what my job title is and has been since leaving school (1990)

i do think the term engineer is undervalued with roles like mine and would be more than happy to sign up

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Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead !


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at least im covered:

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Lots of good points of view here!!! I consider myself as more of the slave at work. Although on the subject of responsibility for signing jobs off on very expensive race cars. I have spent the last four years working on my ND and HND in mech. engineering. Would have gone onto a degree but i couldn't afford it!! IMECHE accreditation would be good one day as my local group hold some very interesting talks.


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On 28th of Feb, 2007 at 10:12am Brocky said:
Yes and No

In the states I heard you have to pass an exam before you can call yourself an engineer (like passing the bar exam in law), other wise your just a project specilist?


To be called an 'Engineer', not that I am aware of. But you do need to take a test to be a member of the National Society of Professional Engineers and be titled a 'Professional Engineer'.

Around here, they call the trash men (the guys who empty our rubbish bins and drive the stinky trucks around) Sanitation Engineers. Now that is a watering down of the title of Engineer!

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On 28th of Feb, 2007 at 10:12am Brocky said:
Yes and No

In the states I heard you have to pass an exam before you can call yourself an engineer (like passing the bar exam in law), other wise your just a project specilist?


To be called an 'Engineer', not that I am aware of. But you do need to take a test to be a member of the National Society of Professional Engineers and be titled a 'Professional Engineer'.

Around here, they call the trash men (the guys who empty our rubbish bins and drive the stinky trucks around) Sanitation Engineers. Now that is a watering down of the title of Engineer!

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Please delete my dopey double post!

Edited by Lance Link on 2nd Mar, 2007.

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