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Markie_D

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Maybe silly question, how about the washer bottle, does this have to be fitted. as ive left mine off. but can fit it no problem ?

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put it on, just incase


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On 2nd Apr, 2008 Nic said:
put it on, just incase


Think i wiil.. as im told this place is very stricked..

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why didnt you go somewhere more mini friendly?


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well i normaly go to a mate in london where i live. but as im in kent and thats where i done me car, i need MOT to get me tax disc :) that y im doing it down here.

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On 2nd Apr, 2008 Mini_Uk said:
Maybe silly question, how about the washer bottle, does this have to be fitted. as ive left mine off. but can fit it no problem ?


Working wipers and screen wash are a legal requirement, and must be working for MOT.....

Although they may not always check.

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Agreed, you will be failed for having an empty washer bottle, nevermind not having one at all!


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I have to fit my washer bottle in the passenger footwell every year..Lol

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It failed MOT :(
Failed on,
service brake efficiency.
It was 45%. should be something like 55 60%. but he said there fine, but computer says no lol wanker.
He told me to adjust the rear drums and the hand brake. And that be fine. but your have to have A re-test,
Which is free for monday.
Plus it failed on no fog light. *surprised*
Ive never had that problem before, never new it was meant to have one.
It's a 1980 1275GT Approximate date Of first use, sept 12th 1980. How do i Find out the true date ?
So they said i need to get it fitted.
Anyway. i goes to pull away, and the metal sleeve you have over the cable come out of the rubber sleeve towards the pedal. so i was stuck.
So i called one of the guys who happend to be the manger. hour later of bodging the cable to get me home. turns out that when the guy was testing the admission, he had to thottle it hard.
Hence why it happend.the manager asked me what it failed on. so i showed him the sheet, and he said, hmm your have to get the fog light fitted. so i said, this has never happend before.
I thought fuck sake.
Anyway, got to know him alot better in that hour. and he said, tell ya what mate, the problem with the car is minnor really/ bring it monday and ill make sure it passes. but in future look into getting a fog light fitted.
So thought that must of been an omen again lol
Fucking minis, i still love em :)
PLus, 3 of the guys said to me, u know That little wining noise on tick over,
Well that's your clutch release Bearing Rubbing. i said noooo it's the Drop Gears.. 3 of them looked at it and Said what he said. they said, i know it makes a noise when driving because of the drops, but the drops dont move while on idle.
Hmmm could this be true..
cheers lads :)

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drops do move on idle unless the clutch is pressed down.

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On 4th Apr, 2008 mini13 said:
drops do move on idle unless the clutch is pressed down.

Thought so.. what a dick head... grrrrrr, makes me mad when u get wankers telling u stuff when they dont know what there talking about...

Shit do happen lol

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How could i check it's not the release bearing.. ???????? lol

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take the 2 bolts out that hold the clutch slave cylinder to the flywheel housing and move the slave so the clutch arm can be operated by hand.

start the engine, push the arm as if the slave was operating it (not hard just by hand to make the release bearing contact the pressure plate)

listen for the noise and see if it goes away if you pull the lever the otherway (to pull the release bearing away from the pressure plate so it stops rotating)

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front fog lights and reverse light aren't on the list, rear fog light has to work, as does hazards, you may get away with hazards, but unlikely, i work part time at a garage

Edited by aml on 6th Apr, 2008.


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i would of thought 1980 was before the fog light requirement to be honest. if it hasnt ever had one fitted then they cant make you have on fitted.


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I thought rear fog light was only testable after 1983, but I just Gooooogled and in fact the cut off date is April 1980, hence them asking when in 1980 your car was first used.


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On 6th Apr, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
I thought rear fog light was only testable after 1983, but I just Gooooogled and in fact the cut off date is April 1980, hence them asking when in 1980 your car was first used.


Yep your right there tom.
Mine is september 1980 :( would that be front also..
as the test just failed on no rear fog light hmmm.. odd how this has never been spotted. i didn't even know. he said he pass it on monday. but problem is, as it failed on efficiency braking, and they said just addjust the rear shoes. which i have now done.
but it just seems back to the way it was, the brakes feel fine to me.
im just wandering if the braking efficiency is maniley for modern day cars on there machine, and not so much older cars like mine. im just using standard braking. stops great. just worried the computer will fail it again.
cant fog out another £50 :(

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Not front fog lights no, these are not compulsary on any age of car.

If you are fitting one though it needs to be on the O/S of the car, and the switch in the car needs to have an illuminating tell-tale to indicate to the driver that the light is on.

If I were you I would probably convert one of the reversing lights into a rear fog, thus meaning no extra drilling holes etc. In fact reversing lights are not testable so you could disconnect them and use that wiring to the rear of the car to operate the light on the O/S as a fog light.

As for the brakes its difficult to comment without seeing the car, but have you recently fitted new shoes? Sometimes until they have bedded in they are not as good as they could be. However when working right they should easily pass the MOT efficiency check. Adjust the shoes right up until the wheel starts to bind, and then very gradually back them off till the wheel is "just" free with a bit of dragging on the shoes. Obviously not too tight, but they don't want to be completely free either.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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I have "helped" rear shoes to bed in by lightly using the handbrake a few times while going along,

don't over do it or you'll overheat the linings, but a few gentle decelerations from 20 or so can knock the high spots off the linings if you dont have the luxury of bedding them in normally.

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On 6th Apr, 2008 Bat said:
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just the advise i was about to give *happy*


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Well the bugger passed today :)
Just have to look into getting a back fog light fitted for the future, incase it comes up again..

Cheers .

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well done mate

i wouldnt bother about that fog light until you have some spare time on your hands though


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On 6th Apr, 2008 Tom Fenton said:
However when working right they should easily pass the MOT efficiency check. Adjust the shoes right up until the wheel starts to bind, and then very gradually back them off till the wheel is "just" free with a bit of dragging on the shoes. Obviously not too tight, but they don't want to be completely free either.
.

I have once spend a whole weekend and used 3 liter of brake fluid trying to get a firm pedal on my drum braked mini before i put Cooper S disks on using the method you describe (as per haynes).

i did it like that.. turns out that the Master is fairly small compared to the volume of four (six) drum brake cylinders.

A mate of my dad dropped by .looked at it for 3 minutes..then sorted it. (voila from no pedal pressure to a good firm pedal..and slightly bruised ego)




this is how i do it now..

1- take the wheel off.
2- put the wheelnuts back on the drum finger tight.
3- adjust untill frigging tight.
4- take a hammer (with a block of wood or a big rubber one used to street work) whack it semi-hard all around..(carefull with minifins) centering the shoes within the drum

5- 90% chance it will be fully loose now.
6- go to 3

adjust untill it only slightly drags.

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Good show old chap, what! what!

now get it on the rollers

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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