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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:15:10pm
Vertical just holds the sleeve to the linkage back to the stick - you are wasting your time with this one as the linkage rods just spring when you hit the pin.
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2497 Posts Member #: 1954 Post Whore Luton Bedfordshire |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:18:18pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 T-shirt said: You can punch out either all you have to do is orientate the pin so that it clears the diff housing as it comes out.
I initially tried to punch through the vertical pin (in neutral if that changes things). Then when I looked at the haynes, realised i was trying to punch through the wrong pin, so changed to the horizontal one. The horizontal one is closest to the diff housing right??? But they are both pigs. What does the vertical one hold??? Here is a tip when your next under the car pull the selector rod toward you in the line of the roll pin you should see the pin poking out just a little. If you can, hit the end of the pin directly while holding onto the selector rod. After a few strikes you should notice the pin is now flush, from here the rest should be easy Own the day
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2497 Posts Member #: 1954 Post Whore Luton Bedfordshire |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:24:55pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 Rod S said: Blasphemy The horizontal one is the one to do, (a) because you can swing the hammer at your parallel punch and, (b) because the shaft out of the gearbox doesn't spring so your hitting against something solid. never use a parallel punch to start to drift out pins you will only fubar the punch! If you dont have a tappered punch grind the tip off of a centre punch and use that first, once it starts to move then go to a parallel punch if you have to.
You are making my OCD WORSE!
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:27:03pm
When I was knocking at it last night, the selecter rod (i think?) turns very slightly making life that little bit harder, as it turns, so your not knocking straight at it but sometimes at an angle???
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2497 Posts Member #: 1954 Post Whore Luton Bedfordshire |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:42:16pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 T-shirt said: No it does not the joy of the set up is that there are very few places where mechaical ware can cause your gear change to feel like stiring soup ala Sciroco gear linkages.
When I was knocking at it last night, the selecter rod (i think?) turns very slightly making life that little bit harder, as it turns, so your not knocking straight at it but sometimes at an angle??? The rod also moves side to side? and the pin sticks out slightly as a result? I get the impression this acts like a shock absorber effect?? That small portion of pin you can see is what you need to hit! Tie a piece of rop around the gear stick to hold it over. Own the day
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 02:51:00pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 Mr Joshua said:
Blasphemy never use a parallel punch to start to drift out pins you will only fubar the punch! If you dont have a tappered punch grind the tip off of a centre punch and use that first, once it starts to move then go to a parallel punch if you have to.
You are making my OCD WORSE! ![]() Rubbish !!! What are your punches made of
Cheese ??? :) Use a tapered punch and you'll just jam it in the hole as it follows the pin through..... The real issue though is to make sure the end of it is flat (just like you suggest starting with a hammer alone) anything other than flat will spread the pin, or even flare out the end of it, and make things worse. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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2497 Posts Member #: 1954 Post Whore Luton Bedfordshire |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:01:39pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 Rod S said: Snap-on8-) I start by useing a 5/32 tappered then go onto a 5/32 parellel for the last bit. Either way your wrong i'm rightOn 29th Oct, 2008 Mr Joshua said:
Blasphemy never use a parallel punch to start to drift out pins you will only fubar the punch! If you dont have a tappered punch grind the tip off of a centre punch and use that first, once it starts to move then go to a parallel punch if you have to.
You are making my OCD WORSE! ![]() Rubbish !!! What are your punches made of
Cheese ??? :) Use a tapered punch and you'll just jam it in the hole as it follows the pin through.....
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:02:52pm
drill it out, and replace it with a bolt and nylock! On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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2497 Posts Member #: 1954 Post Whore Luton Bedfordshire |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:08:52pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 mini13 said: defeatist :(
drill it out, and replace it with a bolt and nylock! Own the day
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:11:32pm
rod change is a pita remote box's are the way forward! On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:21:44pm
Whats the difference???
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
29th Oct, 2008 at 03:32:18pm
sorry i'm dragging this off topic,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
29th Oct, 2008 at 04:44:32pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 Mr Joshua said:
On 29th Oct, 2008 Rod S said: Snap-on8-) I start by useing a 5/32 tappered then go onto a 5/32 parellel for the last bit. Either way your wrong i'm rightOn 29th Oct, 2008 Mr Joshua said:
Blasphemy never use a parallel punch to start to drift out pins you will only fubar the punch! If you dont have a tappered punch grind the tip off of a centre punch and use that first, once it starts to move then go to a parallel punch if you have to.
You are making my OCD WORSE! ![]() Rubbish !!! What are your punches made of
Cheese ??? :) Use a tapered punch and you'll just jam it in the hole as it follows the pin through..... ![]() You are both wrong, you should use the correct roll pin punch. None of this taper shit http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Roll-Pin-Punch-...1QQcmdZViewItem Your wrong and I'm right
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
29th Oct, 2008 at 04:49:01pm
On 29th Oct, 2008 mini13 said:
drill it out, and replace it with a bolt and nylock! I would like to see how sucsesful you are at drilling it out. I have never ever had a problem knocking these pins out with a parallel pin punch or a the correct roll pin punch. If you take the driver side wheel off, then you can lay on your side, hold the punch with your left hand and hit it with a hammer in your right hand. Put the gear into reverse. Its a 2 minuit job. The trick is to have the right sized punch. they are not expensive, buy the right tool for the job!! On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:11:08pm
Good news! Managed to get the pin out and undo the fork nut.
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:19:04pm
Well, yes and no....
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:21:25pm
Yeah makes sense,
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:23:18pm
depends on the manifold, On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:32:38pm
Yes, as Joe (mini13) says, from your description of "no join" it sounds like an after-market manifold (ie, LCB, etc) where the original short cast iron manifold and attached downpipe(s) have been replaced by a single fabricated unit....
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:36:41pm
Yeah tried doing that but no good.
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:41:01pm
In which case, if the manifold/downpipe assembly won't push sideways, and the fork-end bolt won't move far enough to get it out (now it's loose), I would simply push it as far as it will go and put a diamond disc through the remainder....... out in 30 seconds Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:43:10pm
Jeeez its just a continous expense atm...tools, cleaning stuff...angle grinder!!! |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 08:58:04pm
Well you could use a hacksaw blade.... very slowly.... but you need to realise that working on these "antiques" is NOT going to be easy !!!!
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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69 Posts Member #: 2461 Advanced Member Portsmouth |
29th Oct, 2008 at 09:01:44pm
For what its worth il buy a grinder. Dont fancy wasting my time with a hacksaw blade.
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
29th Oct, 2008 at 09:16:25pm
Put a diamond disc on it for this type of cutting...
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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never use a parallel punch to start to drift out pins you will only fubar the punch! If you dont have a tappered punch grind the tip off of a centre punch and use that first, once it starts to move then go to a parallel punch if you have to.

