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Leave that to your conscience then

I seriously doubt it!

it's clear mate as i go where they put me. i want to race in the racing class as there times are slower then d :) but they won't le me.

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do you think they'l worry about number 5?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

I've known that the wild bunch marshal and fund part of the event for years, never really understood why, is it purely financial?

I can't believe that the BMC make no money though. However, their attitude to it as shown above is why it has lower attendance each year and will die on its arse.

MITP is now a serious contender for a dragracing mini event and it's where I'll be going this year. vote with your feet.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

I seriously doubt it!

On 3rd Jan, 2010 Sprocket said:

On 3rd Jan, 2010 paul wiginton said:

no nitrous in road classes.

Where's the rules say that then?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

I think theres nit picking now. There is a class that says for nitrous.
The people on this forum who had the debate a year or so ago about nitrous should remember the email I requested from Dave Hollis himself stating "no nitrous in road legal classes." that I copied and pasted on TM to clarify this matter.
I had explained to him the situation and that TM forum would like it made clear.

Do a search, I cant be arsed.

I seriously doubt it!

What is the difference between a fantastic BMC Showdown weekend and a good BMC Showdown weekend? ^^^^^^

Totaly agree with Wil.

Its going to happen eventualy if BMC sit on their hands and let it happen. While some of us might not think much of the actual racing at MITP, a person looking to have a weekend away with a club at a show, between BMC Showdown and MITP, MITP is a more attratcive proposition. It has the evening entertainment and the facilities that the Showdown lacks.

I like BMC Showdown, I organise my holidays around it, but all the negative aspects, most of which highlighted above, shave of the edge of a really fantastic weekend, and mostly its the get together of you guys that keeps it alive, lol. It wouldnt take much to bring it back from the grave, it just needs 'modernising'

Lets all not just complain here where nothing will ever get done about it. Sign up here http://www.britishminiclub.co.uk/smf/ and put your complaints and suggestions there, at least if they then decide to ignore that, and the Showdown eventualy falls to its knees, its their own doing!

Nicely said Colin

I seriously doubt it!

You were involved in the debate Colin, His last words were (iirc) to the effect of.....
"We dont want nitrous used in road legal classes, we will be discussing this matter at an upcoming committee meeting."
There was no further response so his last word stands. There was nothing added to say that nitrous could be used in road legal classes. Admitted there was nothing to say it couldnt be used but since there is a class for nitrous then that is the class you should be in, its common sence really.

I seriously doubt it!

What class?

Here it is

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=234002

H class Colin

I seriously doubt it!

Ah yes, I remember now, and the quote above was your response to the fact that Nitrous oxide was road legal, and we got no reply, that was where it was left, its all coming back to me.

I still stand by the fact that Nitro's is NOT Nitrous, ergo facto, there is no class at all.

http://www.3dchem.com/moremolecules.asp?ID...othername=Nitro

A ' is used where a letter is missing, in this case its a U lol

I know its not to the letter (no pun intended) but its whats meant, just that whoever worded it misunderstands it.

Ill say it again.....The showdown was put on for fun, its us who have made it into something serious and thats why the class structure/rules arent adequate or clear enough.

Paul

I seriously doubt it!

They can play the rules? then so can I

If Nitro's actualy means Nitrous, then why not say that. Lol, again it doesnt take much to fix does it LMAO.

Class D is the Road class of class H, so if nitrous oxide is road leagal, what puts a road leagal car in a race class and not the road class, OTHER that the ignorance of Dave Hollis

I am tiered of this, and the ignorance of Dave Hollis. In the nicest possibe way. :)

I'll go where i'm put and argue the point at the scrutineering

TBH I dont give a toss if nitrous is used or not in road class, Ive raced against it and won before and theres nothing stopping me fitting it.

I do think the MITP classes need looking at. Its a very good event but I personally cant take it seriously cos Im up against Carls twinnie

I seriously doubt it!

oooops heated debate. just wanted to know what class id be in haha. rules do sound stupid. i guess if it has mot its road legal end of but i think there should be a class for 5 porters and one for others. its like me (basic tuned turbo set up vs the DON...) hardly same class of car

On the subject of Showdown of MITP, aside from the rules and regs issues that have long been discussed, I think they are good events for different reasons.

Showdown is just that - its an event aimed directly at racing and geared up as such. Whilst there may be confusion over the classes, at least there are defined classes and winners for each. Ok so the facilities at Shakespeare County might not be the best, but at least they put on a party in the evening for Nic to show his moves, and for me to get so drunk that I can't remember most of it. Also, whenever there are issues on the track (spillages etc...) they get it cleared very quickly. The track is generally open when they say its going to be, and usually closes later than advertised especially if they've had any delays during the day. I also find Shakespeare to be a friendlier atmosphere in general (not just for Showdown, but any drag racing event).

Onto MITP - this is a weekend Mini show that happens to be held at a drag strip - remember its only been the last couple of years that its been held at Pod. The facilities at Pod are, well, good I suppose in comparison to Shakespeare or York - but its generally not very clean. There were no classes last year for the drag racing (although it was a different management company as Minimag dropped out of the running of it) so it wasn't really a drag racing event as such - simply a RWYB. Santa Pod's track organisation is a joke also - the delays on the track are ridiculous - its never open on time yet always seems to close on time, and there's a hell of a lot more queue pushing goes on there. Then you've got the usual Santa Pod dick heads that seem to be present at absolutely every event there.

I much prefer Shakespeare for its friendliness and the shear number of runs you can get in - plus its cheaper and very few idiots there (with the exception of us obviously!). But drunk dodgems at Pod rule!

[quote=paul wiginton,3rd Jan, 2010]TBH I dont give a toss if nitrous is used or not in road class, Ive raced against it and won before and theres nothing stopping me fitting it.

it don't sound like it matey

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

http://www.mattwoodsphotography.com