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Sam

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equal length manifolds, i guess are better at maintaining pulse energy as the cross sectional area of each runner does not change through the manifold massivly, this coupled with the large radius in the turns of the runners is why they are used i guess. Obviously cost and the effort in producing them is thier pitfall.

Log manifolds are used because they are normally cast iron causing them to be tough and they are cheap to produce.

You could do a half way effort and do a tubular manifold that terminates in a singular collector.

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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I have already been looking at starting again with my manifold, nice as it is.

Here is some inspiration, I found on ebay *happy*


On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 27th May, 2011 Arnoud said:
On 27th May, 2011 philc said:
i am confident that you will not be disappointed. *Clapping*


The first quote for dry decking the head was €150-200...


you need to find someone who can ali weld this cost me £40. it is well worth looking at the builds on EFI,


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Hey Matty.
any reason why? I mean yours looks terrific! However these pics are a bit more what I had in mind if I were to take this job on myself. Should you ever scrap yours however...lemme know? *wink*

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Sam

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Arnoud. Ill design you a equal lengh manifold if you wish. All ill need is the space contraints. The flanges on the k head, the spacings and the diamater of the runners that go into the head.

I need to give back to the forum really, i cant do that financially, but i can give my time and im sure it would help a few people.

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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Great offer Sam, thanks:) I think that I want the impossible tho: ideally I'd like to leave the bulkhead alone (my pick up will be the recipient of all this great stuff)

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I cant see why that would be an issue. It wont be untill after next weekend ill have time to do it though. All ill need is a side on photo of how far the engine is away from the bulkhead with the engine on and some kind of scale. That with the flange dimensions and distances away from each other i should be alright.

Solotions not problems!

Edited by Sam on 29th May, 2011.

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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While equal length manifolds are ideal, they are not necessary IMO, since these engine produce more than enough power, the extra time and effort to squeeze in the extra tubing in an already compact engine bay out weighs the benefits.

OEMs don't concern themselves about it either in most cases, have a look.


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On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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underbonnet heat would be reduced, but engine heat will be increased.


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On 27th May, 2011 Sprocket said:
I have already been looking at starting again with my manifold, nice as it is.

Here is some inspiration, I found on ebay *happy*


Are you likely to experiance any adverse affects as a result of turning the gt17 upside down in terms of the oil flow through it as the oil will now be entering via the drain and exiting via the entry, or doesn't it matter as long as the drain is at the bottom.

P.s I'll buy the manifold if your not using it!

Edited by minimole23 on 29th May, 2011.

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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You need to rotate the core so that the oil entry is still at the top

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Ahh, I thought you'd probably have to do something like that.

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yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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On 29th May, 2011 Sprocket said:
since these engine produce more than enough power


Commandment No. 10 violation.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=258454

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."


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On 29th May, 2011 Paul S said:

On 29th May, 2011 Sprocket said:
since these engine produce more than enough power


Commandment No. 10 violation.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=258454



Combined with a Commandment No. 5 violation.

Poor show Sproket!

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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I subscribe to no mans rules *tongue*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 29th May, 2011 Sam said:
I cant see why that would be an issue. It wont be untill after next weekend ill have time to do it though.


I'm in no rush whatsoever (but maybe someone else is?); the bodyshell's still at the blasters; need to sprinkle a few more € on that first...*wink*
I may be be able to mock up something vaguely resembling the final 16V engine assy in the Van 'shell I'm doing up at the moment and take some measurements/pics in a few weeks time.

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On 29th May, 2011 Sam said:

Solotions not problems!


if your making it manually sam ,would that then be a hans solotion?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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Squeaky! However I doubt it will be required as my solution will be a CAD attempt. Sadly CAD and soap suds dont mix.

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On 29th May, 2011 Sam said:

Solotions not problems!


if your making it manually sam ,would that then be a hans solotion?

On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one


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I could make up a few k manifolds of the log type arrangement, if there is enough call for them?

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