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Carl

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ive recently recieved an avonbar ph2 kit which comes with the correct springs for the job.

when i spoke to avonbar they recommend 1.3s and also say theyve had good results on standard rockers.

think thats right anyway, give um a call they just tell you *smiley*

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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Hi,
My 2 pence... Always use the rocker ratio the cam manufacturer recommends. This is because they design the cam to work best with a certain ratio, usually Std 1.3. With uprated cams the ramp is usually a lot steeper and the springs a lot stronger, then you stick 1.5's on top your asking for trouble! *surprised*
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Definately agree with that statement, the only thing I will add is that the Kent MegaDyne range of cams were designed around 1.5 ratio rockers, but will work just as well with 1.3 rockers.


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just to add, the fitting of 1.5 rockers in genrall on a turbo motor only gains a "shade" at the top end of the RPM band.

the shear shove of the turbo motor happens between 3 & 4500 rpm






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damn you've all got me thinking now, at least they're at the top of the engine lol


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Don't be afraid to use/try what you have. For example, much is written about the avonbar phase 2 cam being the dogs danglies, but my engine has an older grind called the AR13T, and I am also using 1.5 rockers, as I also have these. We will have to wait and see if it produces the goods or not.


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t3gav

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plus matt changed to a ph2 and lost 30 bananas! his cam is pretty special though i believe


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gav, i think that mat had a phase 2 and fitted a phase 3 and then lost 30 hp

"with the phase 3"

iam i correct chaps






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Yes Ben your sort of right*wink* about the loss, just not used a phase 2 cam.

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Mike

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think i'll go with a set of 1.3's then. I got the price for the springs from avonbar, is it essential that i change the followers too?



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Oh yes


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
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Dangerous

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I read somewhere that 1.5 on the exhaust and 1.3 on the inlets might work,could be worth a go if you have a them lying around


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Now, how on earth is that possible to do??
Think about it. You'll need some fancy rocker postry then....

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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yes Vegard , lots of work needed for that mod.

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