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Had a set of carbon fiber mamba seats for a while and finally got aroung to making some custom runners for them, made the runners out of late metro ones cut down and strengthened very happy with the results.*wink*

Just brought a pair of new 6 point harnesses to compliment the buckets but am unsure of how to anchor them, was thinking the two shoulder straps on the parcel shelf and the lap straps to the floor at the correct angle to the seat but the crotch straps will foul the cross member on the floor, any ideas.

Also how do you attatch the eyebolts to the floor does special plates need making then welding, advice please would be of much help, ta.

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Hi,
Yes, you want some load spreading plates for the eyes( about 3mm thick?). The shoulder straps should run downwards, so maybe the rear most edge of the rear seat base area?
You may need to modify the X member, as it's not that strong a mounting point.
Maybe taper the height down in the middle to the floorpan (to look like \\__/ from the front) and weld the load spreader to the floor?
I've not done this myself, but that's how I'd go about it.
Cheers,
Gavin :)

Edited by Bat on 8th Nov, 2006.

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Don't put them on the parcel shelf as this is not structural.

They need to be on the back of the rear seat as low as possible, but keeping the harnesses at less than 45 degrees. Look where the rear seatbelts are mounted on later minis.

Have a search of the site this has been covered before and people have posted drawings.

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[quote=Bat,8th of Nov, 2006 at 04:45pm] The shoulder straps should run downwards, so maybe the rear most edge of the rear seat base area?
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I have always understood that this is completley and unterly wrong. the shoulder starps should be as close to the horizontal as possible, but up to 45 deg is acceptable. i am well aware on a mini there is nothing to mount them to, hence most poepl go for the rear seat base, but ideally for them to work to 100% effeciency they should be mounted to a hrness bar horizontal with the drivers shoulders......

could be wrong tho....

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Anywhere between 90 and 45 is supposed to be fine.
Mine are bolted to the bottom of the back seat upright. As will said the later Minis have mountings already there for rear belts, i just screwed the eye bolts into the existing holes. Job done.

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Hi,
If the belts are angled down, during a rear impact the angle will help keep the belts taught and you secured in the seat. *wink*
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On 9th of Nov, 2006 at 12:52am Bat said:
Hi,
If the belts are angled down, during a rear impact the angle will help keep the belts taught and you secured in the seat. *wink*
Cheers,
Gavin :)


And if they are angled down too much...in a severe impact, they can hold you down....to the extent they can crush your spine.

Chances may be slim....but it can happen, which is why it isnt reccomended.

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Yep 90degrees is best. Ours in the hillclimber are mounted half way up the back seat with a big plate welded there. I am not 100% happy with it, but it will perform correctly in an accident even if it does deform the rear seat a little.

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On 9th of Nov, 2006 at 08:17am Ben H said:
Yep 90degrees is best. Ours in the hillclimber are mounted half way up the back seat with a big plate welded there. I am not 100% happy with it, but it will perform correctly in an accident even if it does deform the rear seat a little.


Worked fine when I crashed!

I saying 90 deg and 45 deg is confusing as there is no reference point. See picture below. Either horizontal or 45 degrees to this.

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