old type phase 2 vs new type??
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hi

done a quick search but couldnt find it.

is there two differnt types of avonbar phase two cams?? a newer one and a older type?

if so what is the differnce in performance drivability etc?


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I thought there was just a phase 2 and a phase 3 ?The phase 3 being a bit lairy for the road ?

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yer i think i may be getting confussed?

im sure i read somwere though that there is a older type and a newer type??

i could of just made it up in my head though lol

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josh

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older type had less exhaust timing around 284 ° if memory ok, the new one have more: 294 °

so is the performs better with the newer type then?
is it a noticable differnce or you would never tell the differnce?

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josh

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you would notice the difference as the reason why the timing was changed was so the lift could be increased, i.e it wasnt just a timing change. How much difference it would really make is impossible to say without back to back testing, but i can garantee it WOULD be noticeable.

Edited by andeh on 20th Nov, 2006.

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ok cheers
think ill get it stright from avonbar then to make sure i get the newer improved type!
think ill get it in the kit with all the other bits.

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josh

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now steady on, noboy mentioned being improved. Afterall i think cam choice is purely based on application, but others may not agree.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie

ok
but a new cam is better than a second hand one right?
what you would you rather have in your engine then? the older or the newer type?
or am i just getting into a massive topic about everthing else of the engine etc?

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josh

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If the second hand camshaft is in good condition and numbered cam followers or new ones are used this should not be a problem.I have built engines using second hand parts and they have been fine .Also depends on your budget.As for type of cam , kent turbo , avonbar turbo etc.This depends on you want from your engine.
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