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Rob H

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Basically when I took my sill off allot of the rust behind the rear subframe mount disintegrated. Now I've had a look at a few parts catalogues and I still can work out what the pile of rust was supposed to look like, so does anyone have any photos of how it should look?

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Hi,
Pic link broke :(
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Didn't work :(

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Rob H

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Is the picture working now?

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Nope!!! lol

EDIT: tis now!!! *wink*

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Hi,
There should be a thick bracket between the heel board and the inner sill. Can you do a close up of the area?
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Looks more or less as it should, inner sill, outersill, then heelboard panel.


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suspension?

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A stud is missing, should be above/below the other stud. (can't work out if its at the top or bottom from the pic)

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On 13th of May, 2007 at 09:35pm matty said:
A stud is missing, should be above/below the other stud. (can't work out if its at the top or bottom from the pic)


I was able to unscrew one of the studs but the other one is seized.

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On 13th of May, 2007 at 09:33pm Tom Fenton said:
Looks more or less as it should, inner sill, outersill, then heelboard panel.


That's good news, based of all the crap that feel out I was convinced that there must have been something else.

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Hi,
There should be a jacking point reinforcement in the sill, have you still got one? On the estate theres a threaded bolt hole in the sill at th rear with a big bracket on the back, don't know if they had them on saloons?
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On 13th of May, 2007 at 09:59pm Bat said:
Hi,
There should be a jacking point reinforcement in the sill, have you still got one? On the estate theres a threaded bolt hole in the sill at th rear with a big bracket on the back, don't know if they had them on saloons?
Cheers,
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hmm you could be right actually and now you have mentioned it i can remember something not sure if it were on the front or the rear,or both anyway im sure its not a jacking point reinforcer i think it was where they put the tresiles into in the factory to spray the shells. the genuine sills have a hole in them for this. i welded mine up. youll be fine without this little bit in it

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Hi,
On the later shells the jacking point strengthener is line with the seat box section, don't know if the earlier shells were at the rear?
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The jacking point strengthener is in line with the box section in the middle of the car, there is a tab at the back of the sill used when they assemble the shells in the factory but nothing to really worry about.


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Rob H

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I've definitely got some kind of strengthening by the jacking point which is under the seat box section, but that's another chuck of rust, abate one I feel quite happy about cutting out and replacing.

There's also plates (if that's the right word) in each corner to give it extra strength when being jacked up with a trolley jack or the like, you can see one of them in the photo just above the round hole.

PS. If you've not worked it out already you can enlarge the picture by clicking on it.

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I'd never jack a mini on those plates, or anywhere apart from one of the subframes actually.


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Like yourself I've only jacked up the BOC on the subframes but as the Clubby is going to has a custom / modified beam, I want to make sure I can jack it up be the shell at the rear.

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On 13th of May, 2007 at 10:47pm Tom Fenton said:
I'd never jack a mini on those plates, or anywhere apart from one of the subframes actually.


i chopped mine off to make the floor cleaner. lol

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Hi,
Those plates are called slinging plates, not for jacking up that's for sure. Nothing stopping you putting something more substantial there for jacking up, especially while the sill is off *wink*
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When I took the sills off mine, had a similar experience but with a little bit more left!

As long as the rest of the metal is sound (ie heelboard w/ subframe mount and inner sills) don't see that it matters.
And I've even removed the standard jacking point on mine- it was rusted beyond salvage.

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Did the car have oversills on?

If so then all the crap that fell out will have been the oroiginal sill.

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

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Rob,

if you look at the Somerford body cat then all will become clear.

There should be what is called a "slinging nut bracket" in there. Whilst it is true that you can get away without I always refit them. Should be a similar unit at the front too. I just bought a full set for Candice's car .... about £8.50 each which I nearly fell over at.

I refit them as they help bridge between the inner and outer sill and help when your average tire centre idiot uses the actual jacking points.

If your planning on running my rear beam design I'd be fitting them ...... more of that over a pint at the next club meeting *wink*

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On 14th of May, 2007 at 07:50am wil_h said:
Did the car have oversills on?

If so then all the crap that fell out will have been the oroiginal sill.


I wish as it would have prepared me a bit better for what I found, some git had cut out half the old sills and welded the new sills over the other half.




On 14th of May, 2007 at 01:02pm RogerM said:
Rob,

if you look at the Somerford body cat then all will become clear.

There should be what is called a "slinging nut bracket" in there. Whilst it is true that you can get away without I always refit them. Should be a similar unit at the front too. I just bought a full set for Candice's car .... about £8.50 each which I nearly fell over at.

I refit them as they help bridge between the inner and outer sill and help when your average tire centre idiot uses the actual jacking points.

If your planning on running my rear beam design I'd be fitting them ...... more of that over a pint at the next club meeting *wink*


Rog,

Can you post a picture of the sling nut brackets you brought?

I am indeed planning on running your rear beam design, I need to talk to you about that. I won't be around for the next club meet as I'm living in a Hotel in Crawley for my sins.

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