Helmet standards & lesson learnt
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Buying a lid for race use. Wanted to try a bike lid as they are £100+ cheaper as they are not fire retardant. Go to bike shops, but alas all they have is the motorcycle gold sticker no BS or Snell stickers on the back. So thought sod it went to GPR bought a Sparco lid on impulse more than being comfortable. Stupid! Took it back, got a Bell sport 4 lid. Damned comfortable, but then noticed when I got home...no BS or Snell sticker.
Phoned GPR up....had a bloke tell me sticker is inside lid!
So..don't be a complete idiot like me! Check the inside, at the back of the lid underneath the lining!

Edited by Jason G on 25th May, 2007.

Hi,
Bike helmets aren't tested to snell or BS standards, presumably our heads aren't worth that much?
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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BS6658-85 type A...had to get book...I'm not that clever to remember

Edited by Jason G on 24th May, 2007.

Actually its JF's sound advice that put me on to bike lids. I can't take any credit for this :) Perfectly safe, only difference is they are not fire retardant & as I've said before £100 cheaper..which is good for clubman racing & trackdays

Edited by Jason G on 24th May, 2007.

and there was me thinking this thread was about somebody with there dick cought in the cucumber slicer,lol

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So can someone explain what is needed in terms of labelling for:-
sprint/hillclimb
circuit racing
track day
drag race ( apart from womens clothes)
Regards
Dave

Edited by danboy on 24th May, 2007.

Hi,
Sorry Jon, they're not anymore!
Now they're only tested to some half baked European standard that lets european showercaps mascarade as helmets!
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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Jon has got AGV lid...BS approved. His BS6658-85 type a...which is in blue book

Well blue book is following, don't know about track days;
BS 6658-85 type A/AF
Snell 2000 & 2005
FIA 8860-2004
SFI foundation 31.1A, 31.2A

Edited by Jason G on 24th May, 2007.

Hi,
My new AGV Rossi Rep helmet hasn't got a BS label on it....

Cheers,
Gavin :)

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I have wondered if the middle man that supply bike shops actually remove labels. They all have that gold bike racing sticking, but they are manufactured to a certain standard. BS for England...snell for the states etc.
Like I said..JF got a new lid with BS sticker on it.

Edited by Jason G on 24th May, 2007.

Hi,
That's my point, from what I remember from the article they're not all manufactured to the same standard anymore....
This has only come about in the last 6 months, before that they would be BS marked.
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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I think theres some odd euro standard too....not sure though...bit knew to this game

Bat, you are rightish...

I don't think they sell BS approved motorcycle helmets from new anymore but are still available from places with some old new stock...

My lid was manufactured 4 years ago but new.




JF.

Edited by giallofly on 24th May, 2007.

Here is mine, a Sparco item, I decided on a fire retardant one, burns anywhere on your body are going to hurt, but your face/eyes/lips etc are some of the most delicate areas, and having a burning lump stuck to my head is not my idea of fun.......





I'll say what I always say when the helmet debate comes up; buy the best you can, I'm personally more concerned about the helmets ability to save my life rather than the ability of it to save me £100 when I buy it.....

Very good point TF, I agree. Mine was £270.
Just a bike eqivalant would be alot cheaper.

Hi,
When buying a helmet ask yourself, how much is my head worth?
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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Must admit, spent more than I planned...but the lid is very comfortable & good quality.

I have a bike helmet and even though it was cheep ishe I am happy that it is good. However, I do wear a fire proof balaclave with it, making it perfect.

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Hi,
Realistically your helmet isn't as important in a car as it is on a bike. In a car you've got the car protecting you to a certain degree, on a bike you've only got fresh air!
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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I ended up with a OMP "speed" one. its a really nice helmet, comfortable and fairly cheap off ebay. Snell approved too.

On a track I think bike & car are equally dangerous...bike you skate down the road, car you have roll cage etc that can batter you