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Turbo Tel

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Once I stiffened up the overboost valve I found the missing power. However I still hear it sometimes and suspect it may still be a factor, maybe a proper dump valve is in order here... So got down to my local dragstrip (I-295 in Delaware!!) with a G-force meter and here's the times..

Specs=GT15, 9:1 compression, 266 cam, 8psi no intercooler, 3.2 Xpin diff, SCdrops, std Gearbox, Megajolt, 6500rpm max

First run was a 0-60, not bad - though I'm still learning how to best manage first gear with the 165 Faulkens. I got 7.86 seconds

Second run was a 1/4 mile and I messed up first gear a bit but got a 16.24 @ 87.7mph ---I'm sure I can get into the high 15's

So how does that compare with a regular T3 or T2 at 8psi?? I must say that I am not aware of any real lag it comes right on from 2500rpm and as a road warrier I think I would highly recommend the GT15...

Terry

EDIT
Heres the M-jolt map. I have been playing with the rate of advance to help with my leanoff at lowrpm this one is helping, also I'm keeping the advance at idle lowish to help keep it cool at idle.

Edited by Turbo Tel on 10th Mar, 2008.

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I am probably the only one that doesn't know, but what cc is this motor?

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Turbo Tel

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Its +20 so 1293?

Terry

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Which GT15 is it???

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...44_454082_2.htm

or

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...44_454083_2.htm


or


http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...48_466755_3.htm


Reason i ask - is becuase the last one seems to be almost identical to a T2, except with a larger 60-trim IIRC.

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On 31st of Aug, 2007 at 01:45pm TurboDave said:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...48_466755_3.htm


Reason i ask - is becuase the last one seems to be almost identical to a T2, except with a larger 60-trim IIRC.


Its the last one, a 1548 which has T25 flange. I bought it new -- under $500 at the time.

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Well, I know that I got stonking results for such a small turbo; in fact mine was a 50-trim, not the 60 that this is....
Best bit for you, is that this will be running the superior GT bearing assembly, which means you can take it all the way to 20psi, with a lot more reliability than the old T-series units ever could handle...

I think you should stop pussyfooting around, get an intercooler on there, and get it boosting upto 15psi. low 14-second passes for sure!!!


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On 31st of Aug, 2007 at 02:17pm TurboDave said:


I think you should stop pussyfooting around, get an intercooler on there, and get it boosting upto 15psi. low 14-second passes for sure!!!



I'm working on it!! I dunno If I want to go to 15psi though maybe 12 ---- I've turned into a real pussy since blowing those pistons..

It still has Journal bearings, not ballbearing but I think the overall design is more efficient. Given that I was always going for a road car I'm pretty happy with the results so far..

Edited by Turbo Tel on 31st Aug, 2007.

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I know it has journal bearings, but these are still way better than the t-series bearings...

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Just found some new info on the GT1548 flanges for anyone thinking of going this route.. I still recon this turbo is a perfect match for a road car. I am just waiting for a few bits and it will be on the road again in the next few weeks, slightly lower CR (8.6) and Forged pistons this time. Also gone to a 2.95 diff. I was easily cracking the 16sec 1/4 and had a 7.6s 0-60 with the IC so looking forward to upping the boost once its setled down..

Attached is a pdf with flange details..

and here is the map


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Edited by Turbo Tel on 19th Apr, 2008.

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Hey Terry (or anyone that has a GT1548) -- I was just wondering if you still like the GT1548 or if you would recommend something different. I am about to drop some coin on it, want to make sure I get something that will work.

Thanks


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I will soon be running a GT1544. It's got a much smaller compressor A/R than the GT1548. Probably a little on the small side but I only plan to run about 10PSI and i am not aiming for high HP. Also, it's only oil cooled as it's used mostly on VAG diesels. The GT1548 seems to be the closest thing to a T2 in te GT range My engine is a 1098 aswell

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best


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On 21st Jan, 2009 Mikes1098 said:
Hey Terry (or anyone that has a GT1548) -- I was just wondering if you still like the GT1548 or if you would recommend something different. I am about to drop some coin on it, want to make sure I get something that will work.

Thanks


I still rate the 1548 and would absolutely reccomend it.. Looking at the specs its smack on for the 1275 engine and makes a great daily driver.. lag is not a problem at all and I dont see a lack of power at 10-12psi when compared to other turbo's.. but as I have always said not sure how it would keep up if pushed with higher boost levels.

Also the 1548 uses a T2 flange and I suspect the other GT15s use something else (3 bolts??) so its just easier to install (mirage? you will have to check) Since I built mine ATP turbo have started selling an outlet flange, a bit pricy but at least available, I had to make mine.


Since posting this I went to the Accralites and 8.5 CR, I also posted the dyno results at 10psi,

http://www.turbominis.com/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=228375

109 nanas at the wheels, not bad.

Terry

Edited by Turbo Tel on 22nd Jan, 2009.

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Hi Tel,

Are you suffering alot if Det at fully throttle past 5k rpm?

What are you EGTs like with those timing figures at the top end?

Alex

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On 22nd Jan, 2009 AlexF2003 said:
Hi Tel,

Are you suffering alot if Det at fully throttle past 5k rpm?

What are you EGTs like with those timing figures at the top end?

Alex


20 deg of advance at 12psi at 5k dosen't sound like a lot of advance to me. even at 8psi it's only 24deg.

What you on about boy??????

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when u ran 10psi and got 109 nanas were u running a intercoller or not??

and yeah 20 deg at 12psi at 5k sounds alright!!


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On 22nd Jan, 2009 wil_h said:


20 deg of advance at 12psi at 5k dosen't sound like a lot of advance to me. even at 8psi it's only 24deg.

What you on about boy??????


Didn't Tel kill a cople of sets of pistons though? Maybe he is referring to that.

Oh, and the other GT15s do use a 3 bolt flange

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best


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no intercooler will requre a lower amount of advance wil you numpty *wink*

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i ran 6 psi through a intercooler on a 1293 with a t2 off a uno!! and 1.5 rockers with a 266 and made 107 nanas

but every rolling road is different!!


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What I mean is I am surprised how little advance he's running

On my 1275cc donkey engine I run approx 28 derees on 10psi with no IC at 6k....

No det on Vpower and EGTs are safe....

Alex

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On 22nd Jan, 2009 AlexF2003 said:
What I mean is I am surprised how little advance he's running

On my 1275cc donkey engine I run approx 28 derees on 10psi with no IC at 6k....

No det on Vpower and EGTs are safe....

Alex


well... after taking out 2 sets of cast pistons I erred on the safe side to say the least..... I never did take the advance all the way up to find where the power started dropping, no balls.. and I have not measured the EGT's

The post above was before I built the final engine using the forged pistons, IC and 8.5 CR. For the R/R session where I got 109 nanas I think ended up with 24 degrees advance, and was not aware of any det. I even backed it off a couple of degrees for road use to be safe.

I did sometimes wonder if the smaller more efficient turbo made detonation more likely, at the time others using regular turbos were also loosing lands so not sure if that was a factor.

I'm actually thinking of doing another R/R session this spring, since that run I have really dialled in the AFR and wonder if It will run a bit quicker, I'm also a bit more confident now I have had no piston failures for a whole year so feel confident enough to push the timing a bit more, maybe a couple extra psi as well?? I have found another R/R near me that seem a bit more Hi-tech and definitely more turbo savvy as they specialise in Subarus.

Terry



Edited by Turbo Tel on 23rd Jan, 2009.

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the cr you are running you can run 26 deg safely even upto 20 psi ish, ask if the rr guy has a set of det cans to use to check.

the only trouble if you are running to little advance is the egt will rise so always a comprimise.

always looking for them bigger bunches of bannanas


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what gt1544 are you gonna use garry, one off the tdi megane?

im not liking the way the snail comes out sideways on those, what other cars have them?

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Joey, I'm using a GT1544S (S just means "different" according to Garretts suffix list). It is used on alot of the smaller VAG TDIs such as the 1.4s and the low power 1.9s. I know they are fitted to the AMF engine and there are a few others I found (AAU springs to mind but I'll have to check up on that). I am still convinced that I have chosen the best garrett turbo for my application. The compressor will be operating in the middle of the peak efficiency island so I'm eager to see what results it brings

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best


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On 2nd Oct, 2009 GaryOS said:
I'm eager to see what results it brings


Thats just a lie

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I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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On 2nd Oct, 2009 PaulH said:



On 2nd Oct, 2009 GaryOS said:
I'm eager to see what results it brings


Thats just a lie


hahaha, you are correct. There was a stage where I really was enthusiastic about it and there was a danger of re-sparking my interest when I checked the compressor map. It will eventually make good figures. I still fucking hate the car though. I hope it gets stolen or set on fire. I have wasted 3 years of my life

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best

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