8v or 16v ????
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Found these pics of Rohith de Silva's (out of sri-lanka I believe) mini...

Strange thing is - it says 16v on the A-panels, but it looks - in every way - like a K100 8v unit.

Is this one that we say a video of I wonder???

Well the cam cover is pure 8v - the true giveaway you can't see clearly (I haven't zoomed the pics yet)is if the injector positions are in the head. The 8v has them after the inlet manifold in the head the 16v has them in the manifold. Hence if its an 8v these would have been plugged/welded.

Dave - nice comment from the TMF there - I can't possibly comment on how little engineering experience I or Simon (my partner in SC) has.lol!!

JK

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!

It's a 970(999) 8V. I know for a fact.

I don't see how that can be a 16v as the bolts which hold the cam cover on are in the wrong place. the 16v ones should be staggered shouldn't they?

Team Racing

Looks like a great car either way

Check out the (slow) progress at.......
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/dn89mini

they are staggered, its the 16v ones that are in line.

easy to see in this thread.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=137009

sorry mate, thats what I meant.

Team Racing

Vegard is slightly wrong - engine was stripped and found to be 1100cc and car was allegedly disqualified as was entered in under 1000cc class!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know

Scruffy, how you feeling now? all better??

Did the owner know it was 1100cc? or did he think he had a sub 1000cc.

What race series is this then?

Team Racing

lol

I did think you of all people should know Jim,

oooh 1100 naughty!

I wonder if a 1071 crank found its way in instead of a 970?

first post there also says its 16v though...

my point is that it isnt unconciveable to me that in a workshop building a lot of engines that a 1071 crank could be mistaken for a 970 crank.

Ive seen similar stuff happen totally by mistake, I know of somone that thought they were racing a 1600cc CVH, which turned out to be a 1900cc unit, he only found out when he took the sump off half way through the season.

Im sure this is the same engine from those dyno vids on youtube that Morspeed posted.

I bet that bloke was well pissed when he found out it was an 1100...

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

He he

http://www.minifinity.com/index.php?name=P...9&highlight=16v

Looks like I put an end to that topic and no one wanted to heckle

This isnt going to go away is it Dave, he he

Edited by Sprocket on 6th Dec, 2007.

LOL,

i just dont get the 16v claim,
it blatantly isnt to anyone that knows, unless morspeed have gone to the hassle of welding bosses into 16v heads so they accept 8v covers, which i doubt.

Also why claim X amount of bananas from a 16v when you could claim X amount of bananas from 8v

Thats just it, Morspeed do not have an engine dyno. The videos of this engine are very carefuly filmed so to make it difficult to see if its a 16v or an 8v to the un trained eye, not only that, but its filmed in such a way so you cant see if there is an engine brake fitted, to the un trained eye.

This all goes back to the 300bhp 16v turbo thread, he has no engine dyno.

Theres a chap on TMF waiting for a 16v 1070 based engine, paid for it back in may, still not received it and excuses included that they have the engines dyno'd of site because they dont know how to set up the DTA engine management software, and the dyno operator let Simon down. They are now a dealer for DTA and give support for. Bit of a contradiction when you look at the Morspeed website.

How much can you polish a Turd?

Dont get me wrong, when you eventualy get the goods, its a decent job. I just dont understand why some people blatently lie and expect every one will be happy with it, especialy when reputation is what sells the product in the first place.

I too would rather burn my money than deal with Morspeed.

Edited by Sprocket on 6th Dec, 2007.

I've seen Morspeed's engine dyno Colin. Well, the neighbour company's.

1050cc oops!

Warning some ugly people on this page LOL!!!! Esp near bottom

Jim fighting fit now thanks - just never going on holiday again as either come back injured or bitten by something nasty!

Edited by Scruffy on 6th Dec, 2007.

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know

ah, 1050

so that what plus 60 on a 970 crank?

Still a mystery then - of course we don't know if it really was accidentally built as a 1050, intentionally built as a 1050 to race illegally, or as a 999, and then modified later to gain an edge...

I'd have thought a sweet K100 conversion would have worked more than well enough - especially if efi had been used - to have won any race that a 5-porter would have been competing against.

All very strange, and I suspect - nay KNOW - that the truth will never come out.

not a twinny is it?

8+8=16 lol

8v covers just don`t fit onto a 16v head,,, (& vise-versa) way too much stuff around to even think about bothering to "try" too either

they`re both just so totally different in the castings with cam cover bolt positions, the base of the covers & the tops of the heads are totally different & just won`t fit.

Heaps of people "talk" about a twinky & use an "in-general" term of 16v when talking about them, silly mistake & easy made,,, but "IF" they were intentionally fibbing about it being a 970 & it ends up an 1100 then why confuse the issue even more by saying it`s a 16v when it`s clearly an 8v

It`s all a bit confusing to me, maybe the owner has absolutely no idea & was just told that is what he`s got, so he may not be to blame at all (maybe)

just my 2&1/2 cents worth after stumbling across this thread, sorry if it`s out of turn,,, if it is, then go suck my exhaust fumes


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I've just been thinking about this... And it annoys me a little - becuase if this had been posted as being a little 1050 screamer, using the 8v head instead of the 16v for whatever reason (had to be 8 valves for the class, for example), then this would have been uber cool - and praise would have come from many corners - myself for one.

This proves what the outfit in coalville is capable of - some damn good stuff if we're all honest; who can say they would happily have such an engine in a spare mini for a trackday razz or whatever?

Instead, the truth gets 'expanded' upon - embelished if you will, and next thing I (we?) are pointing fingers and laughing, when we could (should?) be pointing and clapping.

That is what gets me about this particular builder. If he hired a dolly to answer the phones, a couple more McJob guys to do the mundane (read difficult to get wrong) stuff like degrease engines and skim heads, leaving the man with the reputation to do the stuff that really matters, this would be the place where stuff could really happen.
The proof is in the first two pictures in this post I feel.

Semi rant over....

Edited by turbodave16v on 7th Dec, 2007.