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i have been looking at a few site which do intercooler co2 spray kits. i was wondering has anyone used these before or ever really heard about them being used?
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...pcode=DEI080131
i thought they were quite good and thought even of spray for the rad to cool down water temps if the car is getting to hott? anyone thought about this before?

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seems pretty good. only thing is how hard/expensive is it to get the bottle refilled? obviously this is alot better than just using a fine mist of water but if its rediculously expensive to get it refilled (i know you are only going to be using a very fine mist at a time but you are going to have to refill it at some point) is it really worth it over say a water mist system with either a seperate rad so as that cools the water in the system or a tank that you could put aload of ice in with the water to help lower the temp of the water that is being misted?

just a thought. i would like one as i am looking at going to intercooler and mist system route but i would need to find out how much the refilling would be and then weigh up the cost.


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its cheeper than nitrous i know that much, and lighter than a big tank of water. i thought the kits were of quite a reasonable price.

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sounds good too me then *happy* i thought the price of the kit was pretty good too i just didnt know about how expensive and easy it was to get the bottles refilled.

i might well be investing closer to the time


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im not sure if you are aware but that is excluding the bottle :) it would be able 300ish i geuss for the kit and a bottel

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:o ohhh i wasnt aware, i didnt fully read it and missed that bit! maybe i will be setting up my own system after all *happy*


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old fire extinguishers is all i'll say *smiley*

i'll never get round to doing it on my car but it has to be the way to go.


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On 15th Feb, 2008 iain said:
old fire extinguishers is all i'll say *smiley*

i'll never get round to doing it on my car but it has to be the way to go.


????care to elborate? use the setup as above but with a fire extinguisher or something different???


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The fire extinguisher IS the CO2.

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Or a welding bottle from Machine Mart.

Probably going the water spray route myself as it's cheap / virtually free.

That said I've not really heard of using CO2 for cooling, where's Sprocket gone.

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Its meerly a trick that drag racers have used on turbo cars for years and years. Spray the intercooler just before a run with CO2 fire extinguisher (powder is a no no) and get into the -*c's

However they can also use dry ice which can get even colder bout -78.

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I belive co2 kits when activated to spray intercoolers turn them into a block of ice or "dry ice" making the charge air cold. Ice that comes from co2 from the expanding gasses form the dry ice. I was speakin to someone at work who looks after our fire extinguishers he reckons £15-£20 for refills. Another thing to be carefull of i suppose is where the air intake is situated, you wouldnt want it sucking in co2, not got good for power!


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Water spray is almost free, and easily replenished, and if done correctly, Id say works pretty damn good...

Go check Autospeeds automatic IC water spray kits.

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You have to ascertain that the weight of the system is worth the sometimes negligible power gain though .
Might be a good idea in real hot countries though.

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There is a right up of how to make your own in some electronics mag my mate gets i'll find out what its called...

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barkiboi

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dont some evo's and impreza's use water sprays on there intercoolers, think the evo cuts in automaticaly and the impreza's in manual


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On 20th Feb, 2008 matty said:
There is a right up of how to make your own in some electronics mag my mate gets i'll find out what its called...


I'd be very interested in a copy of the article.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=182522

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I've done a bit of searching on line and I've found a circuit for controlling a water spray based on air temp & engine load with both turn on & turn off hysteresis. I've done some quick & dirty maths and I reckon that if I was to build a batch they'd come to about £20. so the question is would anyone be interested? If so I'll look into it a bit more when I'm back in the UK (just over a week's time) I might make one for myself anyway.

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well you'll never find one of them on my car. I did some test on the rolling road, and my advice is not to fit one.

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On 22nd Feb, 2008 Miniwilliams said:
well you'll never find one of them on my car. I did some test on the rolling road, and my advice is not to fit one.


how come? no worth while gains? or something worse?


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Worsemate, in my tests the car lost a small amount of power, this is unlike me to share some thing like that *wink* lol!

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the best is to use Hp comp air from say a diving light weight cylinder be a damn site cheepr to refill , and better carbon footprint.

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On 21st Feb, 2008 Rob H said:
On 20th Feb, 2008 matty said:
There is a right up of how to make your own in some electronics mag my mate gets i'll find out what its called...


I'd be very interested in a copy of the article.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=182522


I should see my mate at work Tuesday i'll find out the name of the magazine or possibley do a bit of scanning! *happy*

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Matt if it's "Everyday Practical Electronics" (Jan 08) I've found a copy on line, if it's a different article could you get me a copy as it's always good to compare designs. Can't do much with it for a week or so mind as I'm off to France in a few hours.

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