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mknight702

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I'm running an N/A A series in a Westfield XI. I have fitted a drilled 74C thermostat but the engine insists on running at 90-95C.

The problem I believe lies with the electric fan on the radiator, although that does have a thermostatic switch that comes on at 86.5C. I have tried bypassing that, which did seem to have an impact at lower speeds, but at motorway speeds the temperature climbed up to 95C again. Does anyone know whether an electric (Pacet 10") fan will start to restrict the airflow above a certain speed? The radiator is ducted from the front and does have an oil cooler ahead of it.

I have tried the factory but they just say that the car should run at that temperature, however, I am not so convinced!


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hello - nice car - I really want to build a K motor for one of these!

anyway - your cooling issues are not related to the fan. At road speeds the fan has no effect on cooling capability of the system - hence if its getting hot cruising along its the system itself which is not adequate. This could be many things like the rad is not efficient enough or not seeing enough airflow or is blocked, the impellor has fallen off the pump etc. these are the ares you need to look at and not the fan

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Hi,
Is your gauge accurate? Check this first *wink*
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The stat is the controller of the temp as long as the above mentioned by jonn and bat checks out *wink*






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On 15th May, 2008 mknight702 said:

Does anyone know whether an electric (Pacet 10") fan will start to restrict the airflow above a certain speed?


Ar you asking if we think that the fan when not switched on will restrict the normal flow of the rad? There is only one way to find out and that is take it off and go for a drive. I doubt it will make much difference though.

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On 16th May, 2008 Ben H said:

Ar you asking if we think that the fan when not switched on will restrict the normal flow of the rad? There is only one way to find out and that is take it off and go for a drive. I doubt it will make much difference though.


Actually, I was trying to ask if the fan restricted airflow when it's on and the car is at speed. I had pretty much decided that the only way to find out was to remove the fan and ally mounting plate and go for it. Typically, since deciding that the weather has reverted to normal service and as I have no roof at all the car is staying in the garage.

I'm going to do some back of a fag packet calcs on airflow at 70mph to see if the air comming in to the front of the car is greater than that shifted by the fan, if the answer is what I think then I believe the fan is part (if not all) of the problem. They are great for keeping the car cool when in slow traffic but I wonder how they fare elsewhere??


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Hi,
Have you got a picture, I'm wondering what this ally mounting plate is and if it's causing a restriction?
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most vehicles the fan will be resticing the air flow at high speeds and the cooling system is being cooled adequately enough by the passing air through it at that speed.
i would say that the fan will be restricting it but the air should be cooling it enough for the fan no to be on. so after all that confusion i would say that there is a general problem with cooling system.

im going to go with it needing a better cooling system or something is blocked somewhere.


mknight702

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Well, having done some back of a fag packet calculations it seems that the fan flows air at approximately the same rate as travelling at 30mph, above this and its just in the way.

The way the fan is mounted at the moment means that the entire radiator is covered by the fan or its mounting plate, I did think it odd but assumed the factory knew what they were doing! I'm going to take the fan off and give it a go, hopefully this weekend. If that fixes the problem then I will have to find a way to mount a smaller electric fan behind the radiator so that when I am stuck in traffic (not that that will ever happen on our lovely road network). What do you think is a reasonable size fan to use for stationery traffic?


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if the only part of the rad that is free is the part that the fan is on i would say it is quite likely that its the problem.

as for fan size i dont have a clue. sorry lol.

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