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webba

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You heard about this new proposed insurance law?

That it would become illegal to own a car with no insurance?

EVEN if its off road and sorn?

Massive implications to car restorers.

Why should i pay insurance on a mini shell thats sitting in my shed with no engine or wheels!?


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I heard this today. I can't see how this will ever work.

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I cant be arsed to get angry any more about all the shit motorists get. The war against the car continues.

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How the hell can that work??

So they are saying its illegal to drive a car on your own land without insurance?

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its smart to a degree but fucking stupid. trying to make it harder for un insured drivers to own a car, but i dont think this will work at all

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webba

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On 20th Jan, 2009 MikeRace said:
How the hell can that work??

So they are saying its illegal to drive a car on your own land without insurance?


basically yes


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i thought it was ok if the car was sorn??? or at least that is the impression i got

edit: its fine if the cars sorn: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19258

Edited by Mini_Andy on 20th Jan, 2009.


webba

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Didnt say that on the BBC, in that case sorry for scaring people!


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This, and many variations of it, have been talked about for a while.

How it will eventually work remains to be seen. There was talk at one stage of you having to make an "it's off the road" insurance declaration similar to the way SORN is for tax but the chances of a car being taxed but not insured are small (maximum duration 1 year as you can't get the tax disc without insurance) and the ANPR cameras will check for both tax, insurance and for an MOT !!!

I agree 100% with getting un-insured drivers off the road (and their cars crushed) but checking whether a car is insured doesn't mean the driver is.....

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It will be better no to insure, tax or mot your car and get a fine, cheaper in the long. Though I appreciate the other side


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hopefully it willnot apply to cars sorn'ed but will wait and see


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On 20th Jan, 2009 philc said:
It will be better no to insure, tax or mot your car and get a fine, cheaper in the long. Though I appreciate the other side
Someone with that same sentement had a good try at killing me in 2007 got a desk job now and cant ride my other motor bike.

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Around 2 million motorists are estimated to drive around uninsured (6.5% of all motorists in the UK), and these drivers are said to add approximately £30 per year to all of our insurance premiums.

insurance will be £30 cheeper though!


On 20th Jan, 2009 Mr Joshua said:



On 20th Jan, 2009 philc said:
It will be better no to insure, tax or mot your car and get a fine, cheaper in the long. Though I appreciate the other side
Someone with that same sentement had a good try at killing me in 2007 got a desk job now and cant ride my other motor bike.

phil is correct though, as bad as it is people wont insure because they dont want to pay £1200 for a 106 or somthing stupid like that, i find it difficult to understand why its so high, i pay pritty much £600 for a years insurance on a 1.1 106. if i had a motor bike it would be half that even if it was the same price.

Edited by Paul R on 20th Jan, 2009.

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Mr Joshua

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The government should use the same scheme as Germany where the plate is registered to the house not the person I believe each year you pay to retain the licence plate that covers your insurance and road tax If you fail to pay your plate gets taken away from you.

Correct me if Iam wrong.

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On 20th Jan, 2009 Mr Joshua said:
The government should use the same scheme as Germany where the plate is registered to the house not the person I believe each year you pay to retain the licence plate that covers your insurance and road tax If you fail to pay your plate gets taken away from you.

Correct me if Iam wrong.


I think you've got it right there. I believe Belgium operate a siilar system. It is a great idea because if it was combined with something like ANPR it's so easy to track the scum and make them accountable.

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best


t3gav

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On 20th Jan, 2009 Mr Joshua said:



On 20th Jan, 2009 philc said:
It will be better no to insure, tax or mot your car and get a fine, cheaper in the long. Though I appreciate the other side
Someone with that same sentement had a good try at killing me in 2007 got a desk job now and cant ride my other motor bike.


I think he meant whilst building the car.


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Quoted from PistonHeads:

"Cars identified as uninsured will be flagged up, and a warning letter sent to the car's registered keeper."

So all you have to do is register you're car somewhere else and you're laughing. Sounds like the Status Quo *oh well*

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i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

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Who is going to enforce it? There's no end of cars /drivers with no tax, MOT, insurance or driving license. The DVLA computer knows fuck all!
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What I can't understand is what do you insure it for? I.E Third party just incase someone walks into it on your driveway? Or if in your garage, stops a burglar taking you to court because he cut his leg on your rear bumper?

Theres going to be alot of cars with no i.d or log book! *wink*

Edited by Jason G on 20th Jan, 2009.

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Yep. My project car has no number plates at the moment. I'm sure it could loose it's vin PDQ if push came to shove!

On 20th Jan, 2009 milamber said:
What I can't understand is what do you insure it for? I.E Third party just incase someone walks into it on your driveway? Or if in your garage, stops a burglar taking you to court because he cut his leg on your rear bumper?

Theres going to be alot of cars with no i.d or log book! *wink*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 20th Jan, 2009 Rob Gavin said:
hopefully it willnot apply to cars sorn'ed but will wait and see


The article on pistonheads suggests that is the case.

Either way, its still a joke. Its about time the firty lowlife corrupt fuckers in government in conjunction with these rip off insurance companies sorted the problem out once and for all.

And creating stupid laws to criminalise motorists is not the way to do it.

Plain and simple 3rd party blanked cover on the cost of fuel is a total no brainer. Why dont they get their act together and sort that !!!!

A parked car poses no danger to anyone, so should never require insurance.

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webba

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Australia used to have a good tax idea, dunno if it still applys but their road tax costs alot BUT it used to include 3rd party insurance as standard.

thats why you see everyone driving banger cars in neighbours/home and away
may have changed now?

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