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36 Posts Member #: 4743 Member |
15th Feb, 2009 at 11:52:48am
Folks,
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![]() 5329 Posts Member #: 140 Proven 200+bhp & Avon Park 05,06,07 Class D 3rd place |
15th Feb, 2009 at 12:12:50pm
As far as i can tell any fuel injection pump will do the job, you don't really need to know what the pump out put is, if you set what comes out of the reg at around 4 -5 psi. this should be ok. Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
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36 Posts Member #: 4743 Member |
15th Feb, 2009 at 12:50:59pm
Thanks. Problem is, I'll only know if the reg can reduce to what's required once I've bought and installed the pump. When you say "any injection pump", what pressure range are you talking? I doubt the reg could handle 100psi, for example....
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
15th Feb, 2009 at 01:02:16pm
The differential fuel pressure an SU carb works at is ~4psi. What you have to consider is the boost pressure you will run as well. Gauge fuel pressure will be the sum of the boost pressure and the differential fuel pressure. So, 15psi boost and 4psi differential equates to 19psi fuel pressure you would see on a gauge.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
15th Feb, 2009 at 01:17:46pm
Yeah, BL would have just picked a pump off the shelf rather than specifing a special pump. Also, don't for get that the Metro pump was not run at 12V, mprelike 9V
Edited by wil_h on 15th Feb, 2009. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
15th Feb, 2009 at 01:41:53pm
I don't think the metro pump will do a typical EFI fuelling setup, especially a turbo one - I'm sure folks have tried - and failed.
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
15th Feb, 2009 at 02:02:21pm
I could well be wrong Dave. The package is almost identical to severl EFI pumps, but that doesnt mean its the same inside, of course On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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36 Posts Member #: 4743 Member |
15th Feb, 2009 at 07:51:02pm
Thanks to all; I'm happy to go and buy a pump now! Here in Aus, I can't tell the motor spares shop I want a metro turbo pump, so I have to tell them what pump I do want... |
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806 Posts Member #: 989 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
15th Feb, 2009 at 08:03:55pm
The Bosch part number is 0 580 464 070, and a quick google search has thrown up 102 l/hour 94psi.
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36 Posts Member #: 4743 Member |
15th Feb, 2009 at 09:04:12pm
My googling seemed to bring up 130lph and 3 bar (44psi). Either way, it seems that this is the very same pump fitted to the Holden VL Commodore here in Aus, so easy to get. Cheers.
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806 Posts Member #: 989 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
15th Feb, 2009 at 10:46:39pm
Sorry about that, I noted the wrongs stats. It is indeed as you state. |
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15th Feb, 2009 at 11:13:52pm
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
15th Feb, 2009 at 11:27:36pm
have a dig about on here,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 359 Posts Member #: 8931 Senior Member Herefordshire |
1st Jul, 2014 at 09:10:03pm
Holy Thread revival!!!!
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![]() 1030 Posts Member #: 1291 Post Whore Suffolk / Birmingham |
1st Jul, 2014 at 09:47:26pm
2.3 bar one is plenty! Your not going to need 135lph or over 2bar |
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
1st Jul, 2014 at 10:04:30pm
a max pressure of 2.3 bar may be enough, but sounds kinda low tbh, most injection pumps can do well over 3bar,
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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![]() 359 Posts Member #: 8931 Senior Member Herefordshire |
1st Jul, 2014 at 10:23:17pm
So Brett, your thoughts are that although pump 1 can supply 135 ltr/hr which we'll exceeds what I need power wise, you would choose pump 2 because of its higher pressure?
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
1st Jul, 2014 at 11:01:11pm
yes it can fuel for lets say 350hp, but the boost we would have to run to get to even 200hp will far out pressure what the pump can deliver
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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![]() 293 Posts Member #: 10010 Senior Member Northants |
2nd Jul, 2014 at 11:04:24am
Just be careful of over-pressuring the regulator, 6.5 bar is about 95psi, which is more than the standard regulator will be able to take I believe |
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![]() 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
2nd Jul, 2014 at 11:49:46am
Pump one at 2.3 bar will produce say 30psi fuel pressure (actually 33 but leaving a little headroom) and then take away base fuel pressure as say 4psi, and the max boost that pump is capable of keeping up with is going to be around 26psi. The mpi pump is 3 bar and that's far more than an a series will ever need. Pump 1 will be more than capable of what you will probably throw at it. Edited by Carlzilla on 2nd Jul, 2014. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
2nd Jul, 2014 at 12:31:31pm
On 2nd Jul, 2014 jakejakejake1 said:
Just be careful of over-pressuring the regulator, 6.5 bar is about 95psi, which is more than the standard regulator will be able to take I believe Fuel pressure regulators don't take pressure as such they create it And I'll admit on my first post I miss read 2.3bar for psi but what I put still stands I'm always cautious about using parts at the max rating Edited by Brett on 2nd Jul, 2014. Yes i moved to the darkside |
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![]() 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
2nd Jul, 2014 at 02:27:39pm
Haha, but yeah it's best to underwork some parts, but obviously not by too much. I know what you mean Brett, best to always leave a bit of capacity to be on the safe side On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
3rd Jul, 2014 at 02:44:41pm
If you are concerned about excessive pressure/flow overcoming the regulator, all you need to do is put a restrictior at the entry to the regulator, such that the return line all the way back to the tank has a larger flowrate than the inlet to the regulator itself. That will prevent any issues or concerns, and is a good way of ensuring the regulator will work properly.
On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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