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TurboDave16V
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I'm contemplating going 'coil overs' and am a little bit 'out of it' having not had a mini magazine for 2 years or so...

What setup would you reccomend - or perhaps definately NOT reccomend? I recall the 'protech' alloy shocks were supposed to be good - but that was many years ago!

Looking for something with a good spring availability, and damping adjustment.

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Now then.

I've just bought a set of protech alloy rears. Got them from huddersfield but they came the next day.

look good, but i only got them the other day.

front is a z cars subby and it uses protechs as well.

Wolfie mentioned that he had some rebuilt by them while he waited and they were good so customer service has to count for something.

Cant see springs being an issue for coilovers though. The ones on the protechs are progressive, i think 90-140 but i cant remember, i will look when i see them next! (at my folks!)


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I've got set of Gaz lowered coilovers on mine, on a 570kg car using the standard springs that come with the huddersfield kit.

the handling is brilliant on them, it still feels like a mini, and has almost no body roll, but is absorbs bumps far better than my previous gaz shock/cone setup did.

the only thing they're not great with is pot holes, where it sounds like a brick has come through the floor!

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i like the protech stuff, its a small place fun by the original engineer that did all the leda stuff 13pt adjustable, there only 15 miles from me if you want anything Dave

i have contacted them about a group buy, will wait for response

http://www.protechshocks.co.uk/products.htm

Edited by wolfie on 24th Jul, 2009.

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Good skills Wolfie. I'd be interested in a set of standard front and rear shocks if it happens *smiley*

On 24th Jul, 2009 wolfie said:
i like the protech stuff, its a small place fun by the original engineer that did all the leda stuff 13pt adjustable, there only 15 miles from me if you want anything Dave

i have contacted them about a group buy, will wait for response

http://www.protechshocks.co.uk/products.htm

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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I drove up there and bought mine direct. He's a real nice guy and we both had a laugh at the shit quality of my old Gaz coilovers!

I would recommend Pro Tech!



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I had coilovers and beem axle on the back of my,n. Took them off last month because they bang when going over the smallest of pot holes. Also the ride hieght can,t be ajusted. I've tried gaz and spax. They are crap and maybe ok on track, wouldn,t use this setup on the road. Not value for money.

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TurboDave16V
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Is that not suggesting that you have too firm a spring or too hard a damper?

The only other explanation is the plain harshness because you've moved away from a rubber-insulated suspension to something that has no give whatsoever...

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On 24th Jul, 2009 minivan said:
I had coilovers and beem axle on the back of my,n. Took them off last month because they bang when going over the smallest of pot holes. Also the ride hieght can,t be ajusted. I've tried gaz and spax. They are crap and maybe ok on track, wouldn,t use this setup on the road. Not value for money.


A bit of food for though:

On 11th Jul, 2009 turbominivanman said:
Gents.

Have an update to fitting my GAZ rear coilovers from Friday;

On 10th Jul, 2009 turbominivanman said:
Just a thought but there are two lengths of coilovers to cater for standard ride height and lowered.

My previous Spax coilovers smacked the crap out of the back suspension and I think its because I bought standard ride height coilovers in error when I should have bought lowered ones. My car is on 10's and could be considered low so its probably with good reason why I suffered what sounded like the dampers bottoming out over large bumps.

I've just finished fitting the GAZ replacements to avoid the effect and the literature definitely says they're lowered jobs so when I take it back out on the raod I'm hoping to have cured the banging noise over large potholes.

Will report tomorrow, weather permitting.

Have now given the van a good workout with the new rear shocks.

The lowered rear GAZ coilovers have completely eliminated my rear suspension banging / bottoming suffered with the previous Spax units, believed to be standard ride height jobs purchased in error.

It's good news - and now a pleasure to drive.

Each GAZ unit has 43 click adjustments on the hydraulic damper - I've got mine on the 18th click and the car's transformed. This is with 1.9 in ID progressive rate 80/125 lb springs and the beam adjusted to 0.5 deg negative rear camber and 3.2 mm toe-in.

edit: 0.5 degrees negative camber, NOT positive.

Cheers.

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Carl

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i were finking of going coil overs simply to fit a rear beam to save weight.

BUT
what are the other advantages or dissadvantages?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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I think any spax, gaz, avo etc shocks are good, and yes dont forget to get lowerd ones as all theyl do is bottom out?

Ive got protec's on mine and i think the bonus is ther alloy bodied so are lighter than the others.

Rick


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I think I'm right in saying pro tech sell an "extra" lowered rear coilover set up too which maybe useful if running very low.




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What do people usually run for 13s? lowered or standard? Ive heard standard, but the only reason i can think of for that is the increased height of a 13 inch wheel? Anyone else have any thoughts?

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the actual "height" of a 13 works out to be not that differet to a 10.

depends on tyres obviously,

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Thats what i was thinking.


On 25th Jul, 2009 mini13 said:
the actual "height" of a 13 works out to be not that differet to a 10.

depends on tyres obviously,


Can they be changed from raised to lowered? Is it the length of the piston inside?

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Dave.

Following on from my post which Rob picked up on on 10/11 July .....

My lowered Gaz are still fine - only had a couple of knocks from the rear on some 4 inch potholes which were way deep.

Definitely the right choice to make a beam and stick coilovers on. It's so light, I can lift the back end up in the air plus camber and toe are a piece of cake to sort !

I'm happier with the Gaz than I was with the Spax but if I had another chance, I think I'd have gone for Protech as I've seen their kit and it's far superior than any of the other brands, plus they're only 4 miles from where I live !

Go on you know you wanna do it.

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If there is a group buy, id be interested. Not sure how postage would go to aus though lol. Probs more than the product like usual lol

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On 26th Jul, 2009 best_stig said:
If there is a group buy, id be interested. Not sure how postage would go to aus though lol. Probs more than the product like usual lol

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Just dont use the same ones as Barrichello.

I have Protech on mine and rate them, theyre rebuildable and the valve sizes can be changed also

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I seriously doubt it!


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i'd be keen on a group buy too, had spax in the past but the bracketry was rubbishand didnt allow you to run the car low, have to cut chunks out for clearence

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TurboDave16V
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The protech stuff looks good in many ways. The rear mount offset unit looks very well engineered.

On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better


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So has anyone got an idea on approximate cost?

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Dave, i'll put some pics up of the rear offsets tomorrow sometime *smiley*

they look nicely done.


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as if you all sorting a group buy though just after i bought mine!!! *happy*

my rears were £208 posted


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I'd be interested in a group buy too.

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding

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