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 825 Posts Member #: 9661 Post Whore Sheffield South Yorkshire GB. |
4th Apr, 2013 at 11:06:18pm
Nice guide mate, you can not beat guides with step by step pictures, Thanks will be using this for sure at some time in the future.. Alan Main Build
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
5th Apr, 2013 at 08:20:47am
Been reading this guide and have a question around this statement:
On 14th Aug, 2011 almichie said:
The new spacers need to be the length of the originals plus the thickness of the additional spring. Surely that can't be right. If, for example, you are using 2 x 2mm springs. If you make the new spacers 2mm longer than the originals it will push the outer spring 4mm towards the wok (2mm spring plus 2mm extra n the spacers). In my mind, this knocks the whole lot out of alignment and is possibly the cause of the heavy pedal in some peoples cars. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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825 Posts Member #: 9661 Post Whore Sheffield South Yorkshire GB. |
5th Apr, 2013 at 08:56:26am
What would be good is a side view of the assembly so you could see the setup better.. Main Build
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
5th Apr, 2013 at 09:16:57am
Pic's here:
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
5th Apr, 2013 at 09:18:54am
That is quite possibly the case. Surely all you're doing is still spacing to the underside of the spring which will be in the same position as usual therefore a standard size spacer would acheive the same thing.
On 5th Apr, 2013 apbellamy said:
Been reading this guide and have a question around this statement: On 14th Aug, 2011 almichie said:
The new spacers need to be the length of the originals plus the thickness of the additional spring. Surely that can't be right. If, for example, you are using 2 x 2mm springs. If you make the new spacers 2mm longer than the originals it will push the outer spring 4mm towards the wok (2mm spring plus 2mm extra n the spacers). In my mind, this knocks the whole lot out of alignment and is possibly the cause of the heavy pedal in some peoples cars. |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
5th Apr, 2013 at 09:34:44am
In my mind it makes more sense to take the spacers smaller by the thickness of the additional spring to make sure it's external dimensions are the same as an unmodified unit. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
5th Apr, 2013 at 10:02:41am
andy, if you do that it wont fit together. or rather it will but the spacers will flap about as it bottoms out on the springs.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
5th Apr, 2013 at 10:13:13am
So roughly what thickness ideally should they be. I understand they all vary. And what ID and OD? |
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16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
5th Apr, 2013 at 10:20:48am
Got ya. I was thinking the spacer supported the spring, rather than the bolt/rivet.
On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
5th Apr, 2013 at 10:24:14am
ID M8 clearance, OD 11mm,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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 10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
5th Apr, 2013 at 10:57:47am
Yeah the ones we got from you Joe we had to trim them down for the van's RTS. That was with 2 x 998 AP spings. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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825 Posts Member #: 9661 Post Whore Sheffield South Yorkshire GB. |
5th Apr, 2013 at 11:24:56am
So can we say that you make the spaces to suit each individual clutch you take apart.. Main Build
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
5th Apr, 2013 at 12:10:11pm
Sounds that way. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
5th Apr, 2013 at 12:35:17pm
Yep,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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313 Posts Member #: 9367 Senior Member Derby |
7th Apr, 2013 at 07:57:35pm
Can anyone recommend a torque setting for the bolts shown in joes sketch above?
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10020 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
7th Apr, 2013 at 08:06:20pm
FT aka F**kin Tight? If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
7th Apr, 2013 at 08:13:16pm
LOL
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
7th Apr, 2013 at 08:17:36pm
not more than about 25 ftlbs, i settled on about 18 on mine ( after stripping a thread and starting again) Yes i moved to the darkside |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
7th Apr, 2013 at 08:25:19pm
yeah, the fly wheels is pants metal and not that thick, I'd agree with the above.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Apr, 2013 at 09:13:02pm
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Apr, 2013 at 09:20:06pm
after stripping a thread
prooving the point of poor engineering practices Brett, it's not directed at you personally, it is merely you have experienced why it is poor engineering 
Edited by Sprocket on 7th Apr, 2013. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
7th Apr, 2013 at 09:23:45pm
Also, as the spacer is only thin walled you could crush it if you wang it up fooking tight. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Apr, 2013 at 09:24:55pm
On 7th Apr, 2013 Joe C said:
Also, as the spacer is only thin walled you could crush it if you wang it up fooking tight. if you can get it that tight without stripping the thread
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
7th Apr, 2013 at 09:27:03pm
which is admittedly unlikely. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
7th Apr, 2013 at 10:06:14pm
On 7th Apr, 2013 Sprocket said:
after stripping a thread
prooving the point of poor engineering practices Brett, it's not directed at you personally, it is merely you have experienced why it is poor engineering poor engineering practices, as in taping a thread into what is essentially sheet steel where the thickness must be as small as 1/3 the diameter the hole i agree totally, the method you came up with obviously gets round this but is not 100% necessary imo this particular one pulled through just whilst nipping it up and it did give me the opportunity to 'test' what torque they pull through at 25ftlbs ish feels more than tight enough, infact 18flbs ish has been tight enough so far Yes i moved to the darkside |
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