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604 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
12th Apr, 2021 at 07:07:55am
Guy’s,
Edited by Graham T on 12th Apr, 2021. ’77 Clubman build thread
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2618 Posts Member #: 1246 Post Whore Lowestoft, Suffolk. |
12th Apr, 2021 at 07:23:50am
Whilst trying to get to the bottom of some handling issues late last year/early this year I made the transition form Gaz adjustables to Protect ones. Not only was I surprised with the quality difference the shocks are leagues apart in operation.
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
12th Apr, 2021 at 12:07:42pm
I ran standards (Monroe I think?) for many years, but bottomed out with passengers or weight in the car (12" at the time). Switched to Spax adjustables (when I moved onto 13") and they were ok for a few years but I had a couple leak. I replaced them with Gaz adjustables and they have faired well.
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67 Posts Member #: 8956 Advanced Member Algarve/Portugal |
13th Apr, 2021 at 10:26:01pm
Couple of years ago I change the GAZ adjustable, which I hate, to Kayaba AGX and what a difference, much more stable and less bumpy. |
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604 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
4th May, 2021 at 07:32:02am
On 12th Apr, 2021 shane said:
Whilst trying to get to the bottom of some handling issues late last year/early this year I made the transition form Gaz adjustables to Protect ones. Not only was I surprised with the quality difference the shocks are leagues apart in operation. Ive not ran a standard shock on the car in over 15 years nor driven one with standard shocks with decent HP to comment on the advantages/disadvantages. I'm having an alignment and the corner weighting completed on the 21st so should be able to offer more feedback after. Shane Did you get to having the alignment, corner weighting and tracking done? If so, have you had a chance to drive out yet to test it? On 12th Apr, 2021 e5tus said:
I ran standards (Monroe I think?) for many years, but bottomed out with passengers or weight in the car (12" at the time). Switched to Spax adjustables (when I moved onto 13") and they were ok for a few years but I had a couple leak. I replaced them with Gaz adjustables and they have faired well. I'm refreshing some of the surrounding components soon, trying to get my head around the available damper lengths and mounts to figure out what to run with a switch to 10". My thoughts were Protech too, but I'm a long way from decided. Hoping to pick some experienced brains when I'm at the dyno next week. Did you get to pick the experienced brains? Thanks Guy’s. ’77 Clubman build thread
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
4th May, 2021 at 03:02:43pm
I did, one was on coils but his other car was on protechs, standard length shocks but with the lowered upper mount.
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8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
4th May, 2021 at 05:28:32pm
I took a set of protech dampers off a friends TVR a few years ago as one had a problem, even though they were a good few years old they rebuilt them free while i waited. Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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967 Posts Member #: 3228 Post Whore North of the Netherlands |
5th May, 2021 at 07:02:23am
IIRC these were also recommended bij Keith Calver many years ago.
On 13th Apr, 2021 R.Rodrigues said:
Couple of years ago I change the GAZ adjustable, which I hate, to Kayaba AGX and what a difference, much more stable and less bumpy. Dazed and Confused.... |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
5th May, 2021 at 08:16:41pm
On 12th Apr, 2021 Graham T said:
New rubber cones all round. IMO the choice of springs (yes, I know most people call them cones or donuts but they are actually springs) is more important than the "dampers". The rubber (real or synthetic) used in the various versions has/have immense self dampening qualities, the physical "dampers" just fine tune it. And there are many versions of the "cones" available It may be over fifty years ago but Isigoness chose rubber for a reason on a small light car. His original concept was hydrolastic (still rubber springs but hydraulicly linked front to rear) but he couldn't get that developed in time so it came later. The "dampers" on the hydrolastic cars were just for show because BMC didn't think they could sell a car without them.... Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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7260 Posts Member #: 1268 The Boom Boom speaker Police! Essex |
6th May, 2021 at 09:50:47am
I’ve not had a load of experience in this area, but my car had always had Gaz dampers and I bloody hated them, especially the rears. They just seemed so stiff/crashy.
In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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428 Posts Member #: 10128 Senior Member Dorset |
24th May, 2021 at 11:35:45am
Well, I tell a lie, stripped the back down to fit new arm assembly and I didn't have Gaz on the rears, I still had Spax.
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604 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
24th May, 2021 at 11:47:38am
Thank's for the input all.
’77 Clubman build thread
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6743 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
25th May, 2021 at 09:09:52am
On 24th May, 2021 Graham T said:
Thank's for the input all. Based on the feedback, I've bought Protech too. I manged to pick up a car set for £260 including VAT in the end, so not as bad as I thought. prob cheaper cos they did not want you in the shop with that skin condition graham ? Edited by robert on 25th May, 2021. Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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604 Posts Member #: 1106 Post Whore Hungerford, Berks |
25th May, 2021 at 11:17:22am
On 25th May, 2021 robert said:
prob cheaper cos they did not want you in the shop with that skin condition graham ? It is either that or when I open the box I find that there are 4 old ones in there off of a scrap car. ’77 Clubman build thread
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6743 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
25th May, 2021 at 07:34:00pm
that was a typo related joke in case you missed it Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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