Octane booster!!
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I have seen an item bofore at a mini show to boost octane levels of unleaded fuel. I have been searchin on the internet for this product but cant find no information on it. It is a cigar tube shape and the fuel line is cut and this item jubiliee clipped in placed, in side the tube it was filled what looked to be lead balls. Does any one have any information on this product or if any body is using one.

Many thanks barkiboi

a.k.a. Chris barkas

As far as I know it is a load of bollocks and they don't work. If you want octane boost get some proppeer stuff like millers CVL or VSP.

I would love to see these things work, but if they did every manufacturer would fit them, hell petrol stations would fit them!

The stuff you are looking for however is from a company called Formula Power. There does not seem to be a wedsite. I got the info from an old PPC, they have now stopped advertising this product after readers pointed out it was arse. I have the phone number from the advert, but refuse to share it on principle.

Edited by Ben H on 13th Feb, 2006.

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Its balls.... helped test them at ford!

Alex

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I have always wanted to know for sure that it is bollocks. So if you say you have tested them, Alex, and they are a swindle thats good enough for me.

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They did a BSFC test at Manchester Uni using one of these 'magnet on the fuel line' POS's when i was there - similar result!

As i understand, they did the first test with nothing, then tied the 'magnaflow' to the fuel line (no difference) and repeated the 'nothing' test again.
Actually; they had some fun with the last test, and cable-tied a rubber chicken to the fuel line where the magnaflow was previously... The end result was of course - if you want to tie anything to your fuel line, go out and purchase a Rubber chicken as it has the same effect as the magnaflow (Nothing) but was around £50 cheaper!

Edited by turbodave16v on 13th Feb, 2006.

Millers is the way to go...

Alex

AlexF

I have heard (but never tested) MOTH BALLS dropped in the fuel tank. Apparently they dissolve slowly and contain a chemical with high octane levels... Someone at the bodyshop apparently throws them in his Clio and performance has improved...

I donated, but somehow didn't get the label! :(

Imagine the stench though!

I personally use the "Aldon Powerboost" octane booster, as does my dad. It seems to do the trick although hard to say what effect it really has, for me it is just a bit of piece of mind when driving the car hard.

i use millers cvl when i can be arsed to go buy it,
but the fella i get it from builds F2 stock car engines, and allows him to run much more advance without detonation,apparently they listern to the engine with head fones under acceleration.nevel idea.

carl

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I'm really missing my Mini 850.... I would have tried the moth balls in it! Well, one thing is sure, you won't have any moths in your garage!

I donated, but somehow didn't get the label! :(

The moth balls sounds like an old wifes tale to me. I can barley, if at all, notice the difference between 95 and 98 ron I doubt adding a couple of moth balls would make a noticible change.

First time I put 98/octane boost in I though it was better, but that was because I wanted to believe it was....

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unless you advance the timing to take advantage of the higher octane then you won't feel anything!

The item Carl is on about are often call Det-Cans Thats how I map cars, that and a wide band!

Alex

AlexF

The cars I refer to when trying different octanes is a saab 900 turbo and a nissan 200sx. Both turbo cars with knock sensors. It just didn't make a noticible difference. On the dragstrip with back to back tests you might see something, but to tell on the road is difficult.

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it could be both cars are designed to operate on 95 RON... in which case anything more than that goes un-noticed...

on my Jap Spec scooby (needs 100 ron ideally) it makes all the difference in the world...

Alex

AlexF

It could well be Alex, but they were not. The Saab was a 1984 and so designed for 4 star and the nissan was recomended 98. The mind is a wonderful thing and open to suggestion. If you are told it will be faster asfter fitting this or tweeking that, or in this case adding octane boost or higher octane fuel then you keep trying to prove it to yourself that it is faster. It may well be a small amount faster but the human body is pretty poor at sensing small changes in G and then remembering it half an hour later. Like Tom says it probably helps a little, but the protection against detonation is the main thing.

Ben

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My old Legacy Turbo was supposed to run on 98. but I always used 95. I tried 98 once and it was noticable slower. I tried a second time with the same result.

apparently if you wanted to switch back to 98 after using 95 you had to reset the ECU, itterative map or something.

The TT used Optimax with CVL, never pinks upto 20psi.

wil

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That iterative map thing would make sense, I used to run my Legacy on 98 RON (Super) most of the time, but if I put some 95 in because I couldn't get super it used to pink like fcuk.

Did some research on the moth balls. Time for some Chemistry revision... the main component is Naphtalene, which is composed of two coupled benzene rings... now benzene is a poisonous thing which was removed from petrol when they lowered the octane. The moth balls dissolve slowly into the petrol, releasing this benzene compound with the fuel, which therefore then raises the octane level. So maybe this thing could actually work! Just dont do it anytime close to an emissions test!

I donated, but somehow didn't get the label! :(

barkiboi right the milers and other led addatives they sell in the car spares outlets & supermarkets at best only add another 2 points of RON or so the fuel, they also give protection to the valve seats guids etc, & thats it!

with the exception of ALDON addative which is better.

if you require "True octane Booster" try the link below:

http://tetraboost.com/

this has the potential to raise octane levells to 120 RON or more given enough dosing,

which will make enough boost to rapidley wear you engine out or at worst break the internals.

i run this on a regular basis it does what the wesite claims!

but at 120 for 8 liters its expensive to say the least!.

You get what you pay for & thats it!

forgot to add that http://tetraboost.com/
would be of great value to ensure maximum boost say at drag events etc.

it will give you a massive advantage over the competition especially a turbo motor of a simlar spec to yours.

as you can wind the boost up in confidence with out the motor going south with Detonation

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Denis O'Brien.

Hi,
I run VSP. I had the ignition mapped on VSP, if I don't put any in it soon starts pinking its head off!
Cheers,
Gavin. :)

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i have heard good things about Aldon however i use miller in tha metro. Have a freind who uses det cans on his r5 it is coupouled upto the knock sensor in the block.

Team Racing

Hi,
@ Jimster... That looks like a 2 stroke N/A chicken to me!
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