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barkiboi

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Does anybody run fuel coolers or would this sort of mod be aimed at serious track work. Any info would help as i am thinking of building one.

Many thanks, barkiboi
a.k.a chris barkas


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I thought they just used a small oil cooler for the fuel


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in essence does cooler produce any more power or better throtle responce?






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have you any data or ball park figures

temp of fuel V boost pressure pete?






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I saw this on minifinity:

http://www.minifinity.com/index.php?name=P...ewtopic&t=36948

can imagine it being very efficient, maybe if the fuel was ran through a 'heated manifold', but even then there would be very little SA...

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sorry, there was meant to be a 't' on the end of that 'can'....LOL

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I had an idea before about putting co2 through the water cooling passage on the inlet manifold


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theres some gain to be had in this

if its done correctley ?

there are some "very small" refrigeration units available.






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Hi,
CO2 could work, thought about using it for the intercooler spray too!
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hats off to you pete, you make it happen.






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Hi,
I thought the fuel coolers were for reducing the fuel temps created from using multiple high pressure pumps on car using very high boost pressures, due to pressurising the fuel heats it up.
If you look on any HDI car you will find a fuel cooler on them, due to the injection pressures are upto 2000 bar!
I didn't realise people were taking it further by using ice baths to get the fuel temps below ambient!
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Good idea i guess, someone told me once there were not legal, not sure if right or not.

got to be careful not to add extra heat to fuel as well!

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Cant see what you could gain if just cooling to ambient air temp. fuel is allready going to be at that air temp allready and i cant see it getting warmed up much by the pump as is circulates it through the pressure regulator.

I can see some advantages of actually chilling the fuel.

A lot of fuel injection cars also use the flow of fuel that will be returned to the tank to cool the throttle slides. This can warm the fuel quite a lot and here it would be good to run a cooler with ambient air through it to get rid of this excess heat before the fuel is returned to the tank.


barkiboi

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Was thinking more of the fuel getting heated up as it passes through a fuel rail (on injection cars) then returning to the tank hot and getting hotter and hotter as it circulates.


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The fuel cooler was fitted to the group a metros as the tank was over the exhaust,and fuel was getting warm during a long race


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Hi,
@ Mirage take a 500 bhp touring car cosworth for instance.... 4 high pressure motorsport spec fuel pumps, that'll warm your fuel no problem! *wink* Same with the ricers running 700+ bhp.
TBH I can't see us running into those problems with our 1x 40psi fuel pump though!
As for the ice bath, me feet'll get cold and wet LOL!
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