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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 04:11:38pm
hi people
Edited by just_jack on 25th Jun, 2008. Jack Jones |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
25th Jun, 2008 at 04:47:44pm
Which engine to choose is up to you. I think you will find pistons are easier to get for the 998's though.
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 05:28:27pm
i have a mg metro cam, are the phase 1 turbo cams no good then???
Jack Jones |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
25th Jun, 2008 at 05:39:01pm
the Astra pump should be ok, according to FSE's website they spec the same pump for the astra and the metty.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 05:57:01pm
1- inlet
Jack Jones |
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25th Jun, 2008 at 06:00:43pm
I'm building an 1100T with the 202 head. 29cc straight out of the box (almost). On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem. |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 06:05:25pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
1- inlet 2- the little ID thing it says, spec- as12 0608 rhf4- 22 306d parts- 135756180 3- its says ihi turbo (on the inlet side) 4- exhaust side Jack Jones |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 06:06:01pm
why is my pictures not coming up??? Jack Jones |
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25th Jun, 2008 at 06:14:35pm
Here we go again. lol!
In the 13's at last!.. Just |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
25th Jun, 2008 at 07:02:51pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
i would like to overbore one of the blocks and use dished pistons,(suggest a good size please) Dish size depends on what CR you want and that will depend on how much boost you want, which in turn will depend on how much power you want. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
I have started working on a 12g940 small valved head, i have ground i combustion camber out to 26 or 28cc cant remember i will have to recheck that Will & Ben are using a 12G940 head on their hillclimber with good results. However I'm going to go for a 295 head on mine as I don't like the idea of pocketing block when using forced induction. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
i have a mg metro cam, are the phase 1 turbo cams no good then??? I don't think anyone's tried a phase 1 turbo cam on a small bore and they weren't very popular on the big bores. I think the general consensus is that they are a bit on the mild side. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
is there anyway i could use a manifold where i dont need to cut the bulkhead??? Only options are a Mirage Manifold or a custom one. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
if i could get a mirage manifold for cheap(how much are they??? if you know) They are about £350 new, and I've only ever heard of two coming up for sale second hand, people seem to like them and hang on to them. http://www.miragemotorsport.com/ Edited by Rob H on 25th Jun, 2008. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 10:44:07pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 theoneeyedlizard said:
Here we go again. lol! is that here we go another newb or another one that cant post pictures up??? Jack Jones |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
25th Jun, 2008 at 11:14:52pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Dish size depends on what CR you want and that will depend on how much boost you want, which in turn will depend on how much power you want. well i am currently running a 1330 n/a with a kent 296 i want more then that, i think its about 110bhp at the fw, but to be honest, i am the same as everybody else i want as much power as possible with the reliability of something very reliable and for as little cost around i hope to run about 15psi of boost, the turbo is really small, like a dinky toy turbo On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Will & Ben are using a 12G940 head on their hillclimber with good results. However I'm going to go for a 295 head on mine as I don't like the idea of pocketing block when using forced induction. i found a 295 for £100, which is alot on my budget, then it needs working alot as its been sitting for years, before i put my 1330 in i was running a 998 with a 1300 big valved head and my block wasnt pocketed, it did leave a little mark though if im using a small valved head and overboreing then surely it would only need pocketing a tiny amount, if any??? On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
I don't think anyone's tried a phase 1 turbo cam on a small bore and they weren't very popular on the big bores. I think the general consensus is that they are a bit on the mild side. if they are mild in a 1275 surely they would be larey as hell in a small bore, should i be the candidate to try it On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Only options are a Mirage Manifold or a custom one. They are about £350 new, and I've only ever heard of two coming up for sale second hand, people seem to like them and hang on to them. do you know the internal bore size of a mirage manifold i will make myself a mirage style one, then i wont have to worry about joining my turbo up with it i can just make another flange up thanks for your hlep jack Jack Jones |
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![]() 6274 Posts Member #: 509 Post Whore Isle of Man |
25th Jun, 2008 at 11:28:04pm
someone on here made up some similar to the mirage ones, but aloy cheaper, cant remember who though? "Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:56:42am
On 25th Jun, 2008 joeybaby83 said:
someone on here made up some similar to the mirage ones, but aloy cheaper, cant remember who though? i cant find them and you got my hopes up now but how cheap is cheap Jack Jones |
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26th Jun, 2008 at 07:50:06am
What could be cheaper than making an adaptor plate up for the Metro manifold ? 12mm plate with a tapered hole filed in it ..... |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
26th Jun, 2008 at 07:52:06am
Alternative Mirage
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
26th Jun, 2008 at 11:40:05am
On 26th Jun, 2008 wil_h said:
Alternative Mirage http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=184408 You really need to show us the turbo though. I'll PM you my email so you can send me the piccy. emailed Jack Jones |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
26th Jun, 2008 at 11:49:19am
so does the mirage manifolds affect performance, due to different gas flow or not??? Jack Jones |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
26th Jun, 2008 at 11:56:14am
Try doing a search pal, there is lots and lots of info on the forum waiting for you to read it and learn from it.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:06:13pm
right, here is the turbo
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:06:53pm
On 26th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
so does the mirage manifolds affect performance, due to different gas flow or not??? Currenty Nic holds the record for fastest road going Turbo Mini over the standing quarter mile, and he's running Mirage manifoldds so they can't be that bad! Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:07:50pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
On 25th Jun, 2008 theoneeyedlizard said:
Here we go again. lol! is that here we go another newb or another one that cant post pictures up??? For some reason a lot of people have problems posting pictures on this website. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:18:02pm
On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Dish size depends on what CR you want and that will depend on how much boost you want, which in turn will depend on how much power you want. well i am currently running a 1330 n/a with a kent 296 i want more then that, i think its about 110bhp at the fw, but to be honest, i am the same as everybody else i want as much power as possible with the reliability of something very reliable and for as little cost around i hope to run about 15psi of boost, the turbo is really small, like a dinky toy turbo You can have ant two of the following; power, relibility or cheap, you can't have all three I'm afraid. 110 Bananas should easilly achivable if you haven't already have a look at Wil/Ben's 20 hour turbo build. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Will & Ben are using a 12G940 head on their hillclimber with good results. However I'm going to go for a 295 head on mine as I don't like the idea of pocketing block when using forced induction. i found a 295 for £100, which is alot on my budget, then it needs working alot as its been sitting for years, before i put my 1330 in i was running a 998 with a 1300 big valved head and my block wasnt pocketed, it did leave a little mark though if im using a small valved head and overboreing then surely it would only need pocketing a tiny amount, if any??? I'm also trying to work out what I can get away with in terms of valve sizes and rebores, my current plan is to cut a block in to and see how much there is to play with. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
I don't think anyone's tried a phase 1 turbo cam on a small bore and they weren't very popular on the big bores. I think the general consensus is that they are a bit on the mild side. if they are mild in a 1275 surely they would be larey as hell in a small bore, should i be the candidate to try it Don't know, I've not seen the timings for the phase 1, all I know is that it was never a popluar choice. On 25th Jun, 2008 just_jack said:
On 25th Jun, 2008 Rob H said:
Only options are a Mirage Manifold or a custom one. They are about £350 new, and I've only ever heard of two coming up for sale second hand, people seem to like them and hang on to them. do you know the internal bore size of a mirage manifold i will make myself a mirage style one, then i wont have to worry about joining my turbo up with it i can just make another flange up Can't help you there as my Mirage Manifold is currently on Bat's Mini, but as a rule of thumb it's about the same diameter as the ports. Edited by Rob H on 26th Jun, 2008. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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545 Posts Member #: 2928 Post Whore peterborough |
26th Jun, 2008 at 12:48:36pm
On 26th Jun, 2008 wil_h said:
right, here is the turbo From my calcs, for a small bore running 15psi it looks to be ok from a compressor side. the map to look at is the pink one. thanks alot for doing this wil but to be honest if anything it has confused me quite a bit, i dont really know much about turbos themselfs or the conversion really will it be good enough for the job, how much boost will that max at and any idea of price of them??? Jack Jones |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
26th Jun, 2008 at 03:21:45pm
No idea of cost, you'll need to reserch that yourself.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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