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Rob H

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Has any one fitted lower mounts from the back of their gearbox to the back of the sub frame? If so where exactly did you conect the mounts? I'm thinking about making some brakets to bolt on to the side plates on the diff housing (like the exhaust mount) and two more brackets that locate onto the subframe mounting holes, if that makes sense.

I know KAD sell these, but I'd like to make my own.

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Hi Rob,
I think there was a factory fitted one on the N/S. There's a bolt hole in the subframe, and a bracket on the speedo? housing. I'd guess you'd just need to make a mirror image for the other side....

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Edited by Bat on 30th Nov, 2007.

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Yep for the original N/S the sub frame end of the tiebar bolts directly to the subby near the big lightening hole. the bracket bolts up on the studs for the lower fw housing.

Minisport (spit on floor) do a O/S one as well

http://www.minisport.com/acatalog/Mini_Eng...tabilisers.html

Edited by Brocky on 30th Nov, 2007.

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i'll get some pictures of my one tomorrow for you rob, any specific angle you want? also minispares do both sides, so theres no need to buy off minisport!

On 15th of Apr, 2007 at 09:08pm Vegard said:
What the fuck is that on the rear of the car? One of the most stupid things I've ever seen. Rest looks nice.


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Yep I don't buy any thing off minisport either hence the spit on the floor comment,

but its a good picture if you want to make your own...

BTW - I took my buddy VTEC Pete out for a spin this weekend, and even though I am running her in, he gave it a name, the "Brocket"...cause I'm a brocket maaannn, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah....

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Dont mean to hyjack but while we are on the subject of stabilisers, is it possible to use a pair of the above brackets, and the std engine steady, and not use a head steady?
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Hi,
The top steadies are the most important as this is where you have the most leverage from the engine trying to rotate around the driveshafts.
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Rob H

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On 30th of Nov, 2007 at 09:57pm steveobennet said:
i'll get some pictures of my one tomorrow for you rob, any specific angle you want? also minispares do both sides, so theres no need to buy off minisport!


If you could get some pics that would be great, I'm not worried about what angle, I more interested in how / where they bolt on.

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minispares do a left and right hand stabiliser from the rear of the box to the subframe,

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=34151

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=38370

i just fitted both of these to my project using the uprated one peice rubber mpi style stabiliser bushes, these are meant for the top steady with the 5/16 bolt, but if your careful and keep them cool with plenty of water you can drill them out to 3/8 and use them on the bottom steadys.

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On 30th of Nov, 2007 at 10:52pm shane said:
Dont mean to hyjack but while we are on the subject of stabilisers, is it possible to use a pair of the above brackets, and the std engine steady, and not use a head steady?
Cheers
Shane


No way. Simple leverage. The top mount does most of the work controlling engine rocking, as the main mounts are at the bottom of the engine
I ran both lower mounts, and a top mount. It was fairly good, but the front lower broke once or twice.

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Once I have fitted the top engine steady (to the thermostst housing) I have never used the bottom once again. Mind you the road car doesn't have much torque and the racer has solid engine mounts which help a lot, but not a good idea on the road.

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excuse the shite pics, and the rusty exterior. it just so happened that i already had a hole in the subframe for this mount





On 15th of Apr, 2007 at 09:08pm Vegard said:
What the fuck is that on the rear of the car? One of the most stupid things I've ever seen. Rest looks nice.


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Was only asking as I am a little concerned with mounting a head steady to my bulkhead/crossmember (as its fibreglass)
Cheers
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On 30th of Nov, 2007 at 10:52pm shane said:
Dont mean to hyjack but while we are on the subject of stabilisers, is it possible to use a pair of the above brackets, and the std engine steady, and not use a head steady?
Cheers
Shane


No way. Simple leverage. The top mount does most of the work controlling engine rocking, as the main mounts are at the bottom of the engine
I ran both lower mounts, and a top mount. It was fairly good, but the front lower broke once or twice.


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And fit poly bushes to them too.

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Rob H

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Steve, thanks for the pictures, really apprechiated.

Carl, rod ends is an interesting idea and makes sense especially as I was going to use rose joints on mine as I want to loose all my teeth driving it.

Edited by Rob H on 9th Dec, 2007.

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ive just been looking itno this as im at the stage of trying to locate my engine so i can mock up properly.

im thinking i might buy 2 of the specialist components upper steady bars and make my own brackets up so i can use them for the gearbox.

has anyone got a kad set? and are they the same length as the upper engine steady? pictures would be much appreciated!




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this is the bracket for the forward facing one but i thing the kad ones both go backwards?

oh and is the standard gearbox steady bar still used wih the kad set up?

Edited by andywaller on 9th Dec, 2007.




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from what i've seen the kad ones both go backwards, in a similar manner to the minispares ones pictured by stevobennet.

you could fit the std gearbox one that goes to the front of the subby, but I pesonally dont like that, in my mind they will be fighting each other.

TBH Andy on your car I'd just go for a pair of solid engine mounts and forget the lower steadys, then add a rose jointed tie to either side at the top.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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ah right thats interesting joe, i had been thinking about solid lower mounts but wasnt sure weather they were a good idea on the road.

if they are ok i think youve hit the nail on the head with running 2 up the top!




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On 9th of Dec, 2007 at 04:37pm andywaller said:
if they are ok i think youve hit the nail on the head with running 2 up the top!


Just remember you can't run a "standard" second top steady with a twinky.

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I'm fitting these two on my pickup this winter, as it's got the pudding stirrer gearbox with no steadying. Minispares ones are great, and quite cheap.

Poly is a definite no no for me. Poly + oil = air. Good old rubber rocks!

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Hi,
Rob ... I think the Avonbar one would be just the job as it bolts to the water pump *wink*
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The Avonbar top steady is a gem!

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.


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