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Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 04:14:49pm

So I bought this nice 2" stainless system and it looks really well made and over the weekend did some trial fits so I can make up my own 2" stainless downpipe from the turbo elbow (Metro T3) (as the only ones I can find to buy are mild steel) using a 1 3/4" Metro downpipe as a guide.

Got it all worked out but then I noticed the front end of the new 2" link pipe isn't swaged out to fit over a 2" downpipe. The silencer box front pipe is swaged so fits over the 2" link pipe but the link pipe, being un-swaged, would only fit over a 1 7/8" downpipe. It doesn't even fit the Metro 1 3/4" one, being as loose as.... (avoids smutty inuendo).

So I emailed the suppliers back (with photos) and (eventually) got the reply back that the link pipe is fine as it doesn't need to be swaged out to fit over the Y piece of a 2" LCB.....

Does this mean 2" LCBs are really only 1 7/8" or am I missing something.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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bromsgrove

30th Jul, 2008 at 04:36:09pm

my Y piece fits over the pipe not the other way round

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kent

30th Jul, 2008 at 05:00:17pm

Why not ring maniflow?

Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 05:03:31pm

Even stranger,

My link pipe is clearly meant to go over the Y piece/downpipe/whatever as it is slotted/slitted for the clamp

It just won't go over a 2" pipe and falls off a 1 3/4" one....
Non-swaged link pipe top, swaged silencer pipe bottom.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 05:07:59pm




On 30th Jul, 2008 gavin@minispares.com said:
Why not ring maniflow?

Because they only advertised mild steel (as do Avonbar) so I'm half way through making my own stainless one. The real issue is my one is 2" OD. The issue is this 2" link pipe isn't flared to go over a 2" downpipe and that's what I don't understand at the moment *frown**frown**frown*

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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kent

30th Jul, 2008 at 05:10:46pm

I'll make it clearer, ring maniflow and they will make you one :)

Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 05:15:09pm




On 30th Jul, 2008 gavin@minispares.com said:
I'll make it clearer, ring maniflow and they will make you one :)

But if they made one, it would have to be 1 7/8" for this 2" link pipe to fit over !!!!

I'm making mine a real 2", so my question is back to basics, are common 2" LCBs and downpipes not really 2" ???

The supplier says their UN-flared 2" pipe should fit a 2" LCB Y piece.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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Carlos Fandango

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30th Jul, 2008 at 05:58:47pm

these things can vary manufacturer to manufacturer in my experience.

I think most 2" lcbs are 2" od and assume that you will be sorting out your own system on a racer.

when i did my down pipe i resorted to using 2" pipe and bends and a mild steel joiner slid over both.

exhaust ala me...

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=165426


exhaiust looks nice quality though!



On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 06:11:14pm

Yes, I assumed most 2" LCBs would actually be 2" OD so expected the link pipe to be swaged out to fit over a 2" OD pipe (whether LCB Y piece or turbo downpipe) but this one isn't so I'll have to resort to an external joint sleeve or a home made "swageing tool" utilising a BFH.

Why is nothing simple.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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30th Jul, 2008 at 06:18:30pm


aint that the fucking truth!!!

on my GF's fiat i have been through 3 petrol caps and the C&^% still pisses fuel out round corners.... even tried modded the cap to get it to seal.... have today bought a billet alley cap and pipe and gonna fabricate my own...

On 30th Jul, 2008 retired said:
Why is nothing simple.....

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



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30th Jul, 2008 at 06:44:09pm

I *think* my cheap no name LCB was 1-7/8" OD, I remember buying a 2" clamp to go over the swaged end of the link pipe which would make sense.

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30th Jul, 2008 at 07:09:31pm

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*happy*

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 Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


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Yep I agree with TD........

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Bermingum

30th Jul, 2008 at 08:04:52pm

hi,
I've made my downpipe out of 2" and my Play Mini system is 2" also.
A 4" length of 2 1/8" and the welder sorted this problem *wink*
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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Rod S

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30th Jul, 2008 at 08:28:42pm

Yes Sprocket and Bat, I can get around this easily with a bit of oversize tube (or even a bit of rolled stainless plate) and my TIG set, or some sort of clamped adaptor but..... why the hell should I have to ???

If I buy 2", I expect every bit of 2" to fit to the next, with swaged fittings so one 2" bit fits over the next 2" bit....

Rant over, welder out....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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Bermingum

30th Jul, 2008 at 08:40:57pm

Hi,
Welder fixes most things the hammer can't! *wink*
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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30th Jul, 2008 at 08:51:05pm




On 30th Jul, 2008 Bat said:
Welder fixes most things the hammer can't!

Except for my general mental health, my belief in you should get what you pay for and it should work "out of the box" and.....
Sod it, where's my bottle of argon hiding...

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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Bermingum

30th Jul, 2008 at 09:12:47pm

Hi,
It's no good mentioning mental health on here! *Rofl!* *Confused*
My Play Mini system looks the same as your system and fitted fine over the end of the 1 7/8" pipe on the end of my LCB.
Cheers,
Gavin :)

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