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danb41

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This may be a silly question, but i couldn't find an answer on the autosports site or here. Basically i need to know how to tell the polarity of the crank position sensor. Its from a fiesta and it has 2 pins, but with no indication as to which is + and -

Anyone know? *oh well*

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Dan.

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I don't know how to measure it.
But if you don't get a spark switch the wires and try again.
You wont blow it up if you connect them the wrong way. It just won't work.

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danb41

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Thats what i was going to do, but it would be nice to try and do it just the once.

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Rod S explained which way round the go, but it was some time ago. Have a search.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


danb41

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I've tried searching Andy to no avail! Can't think of any other words to search *oh well*

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it will work both ways but one way is unstable and the timing jitters about the other is correct,

this is a good thread

http://www.autosportlabs.org/viewtopic.php...f66b1db7ed35b79

Edited by Brett on 8th Oct, 2012.

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I can't find it now...

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


danb41

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Ah that is what i was after brett, cheers! And i'm glad i'm not going mad Andy.

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It will only work correctly when wired correctly, yes they are polarity sensitive.

But what actually happens when it is wrong will largely depend on what ecu is connected to it and how it decyphers the signal.

basically the sensor will still read the wheel and create a voltage, but when the wiring is reversed the signal trace on a scope is reversed.

So if your ecu is looking for a falling edge trigger...it simply wont see it ( you hope )
Or if it's looking for a rising edge, again wired wrong it may not see it.

the problems arise when the ecu sees something and thinks it is a viable signal, which can lead to wrong or random ignition timing, which is bad.

The Motec webinars explain a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv0-9_JS8oA...channel&list=UL

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tadge44

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Pardon my ignorance but I dint understand this falling/rising edge business.

Do I take it that we should be setting the 90 degrees away from TDC on the leading edge of the gap, rather than the middle of the gap?.


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Halfway down this page:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=112060

Geoff


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This thread, second post

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=329345

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


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On 9th Oct, 2012 tadge44 said:
Pardon my ignorance but I dint understand this falling/rising edge business.

Do I take it that we should be setting the 90 degrees away from TDC on the leading edge of the gap, rather than the middle of the gap?.


The video I linked explains.

The leading edge would be seen as a rising edge. The trailing edge would be a falling.

However, if wired wrong that can also appear as the opposite, even though they arent.

Edited by stevieturbo on 9th Oct, 2012.

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