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just_jack

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what do i need to convert a naturally aspirated engine to a turbod engine, i need to know everything i need

i will be using the car as an everyday car.
so it needs to be reasonble reliable and good on fuel,
because i get payed peanuts,

(not to botherd about fuel consumption when the boost is wound up)

i would like it to be quick at the twist of a boost regulator,
the kinda spin the wheels in fourth even if im sitting around 70mph quick and pull away from quick cars

build price is on a budget but i will pay what i need to pay

thanks alot
jack

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What he said^^

There is an insane amount of excellent info on this forum. Your asking very basic questions which have been covered several times by the resident experts. I'm sure you can understand that they dont want to spell out every aspect of forced induction every time a new member comes along

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse *happy*


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Gary's description is best


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On 1st Jul, 2008 just_jack said:

kinda spin the wheels in fourth even if im sitting around 70mph


Best way to acheive that it put some shit tyres on.

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On 2nd Jul, 2008 Ben H said:
On 1st Jul, 2008 just_jack said:

kinda spin the wheels in fourth even if im sitting around 70mph


Best way to acheive that it put some shit tyres on.



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just_jack

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ok i have been looking all night at what it says i need
if i had a decent computer it properly would have taken me about 1 hour but anyway
i have found i need these parts
fuel pump (i got a metro turbo 1)
fuel pressure regulator (might need 1)
oil feed for turbo( that needs sortin)
modded tank or mpi(got a modded 1)
exhaust (didnt list bore???)
fuel feeds and returns(8mm feed)
turbo disturbutor (is it different for 1098t)
plenum (need 1)
intercooler(if running boost)
manifolds(needs exhaust, stage 1 inlet will that be any good???)
turbo spec carb (+needle and spring)

if i need anything else please tell me

Jack Jones


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turbo engines run boost :(


On 2nd Jul, 2008 just_jack said:

intercooler(if running boost)

On 17th Feb, 2009 Rob H said:

I find the easiest way is to super glue the bolt to the end of one of my fingers.

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fuel pump (i got a metro turbo 1) excellent

fuel pressure regulator (might need 1) Ye WILL need one

oil feed for turbo( that needs sortin) sorted

modded tank or mpi(got a modded 1) good

exhaust (didnt list bore???) 2" is the sise of the maniflow downpipe

fuel feeds and returns(8mm feed) 8mm retun too

turbo disturbutor (is it different for 1098t) No such thing as a 1098t dizzy. Metro turbo one might be ok, mapped ignition is better.

plenum (need 1) yep

intercooler(if running boost) you will be running boost, but no need for an IC if only running 4 or 5psi

manifolds(needs exhaust, stage 1 inlet will that be any good???) If you use the metro exhaust manifold, the only inlet that easily fits is the metro turbo one.

turbo spec carb (+needle and spring) yep.

if i need anything else please tell me................. You'll need a turbo, and the oil return gubbins, you need to consider your CR and look at what exhaust valves you are running in what type of guides, camshaft nneds thinking about.

And if you are after a car that will spin the wheels in 4th you'll need a pretty amazing gearbox etc (plus a crash helmet!)

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

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I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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On 3rd Jul, 2008 wil_h said:

And if you are after a car that will spin the wheels in 4th you'll need a pretty amazing gearbox etc (plus a crash helmet!)


or some wet grass

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Clutch setup is another thing to consider. *wink*

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And a bulkhead box (along with someone who can weld properly) if you're using the Metro manifold and T3.

And you'd better put a cross pin diff in the gearbox or you'll probably spin the wheels once only before the expensive bang.....

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just_jack

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exhaust 2" is the size of the maniflow downpipe, what sort of box do i want to be using??? or should i just go striaght through???

fuel pipes, whats standard on carburetored minis

turbo disturbutor i ment will a 1300t dizzy be any good standard sounds not tho, mapped ignition is better i dont really understand what i want and how to fit set them up or anything really megasquirt or jolt

intercooler, by running boost i ment proper bosst not a silly amount like 5 or 6 psi, i think on a adjuster i will run 15psi max,
2 or 3psi around town daily driving sort of thing (if thats possible)

manifolds(needs exhaust, stage 1 inlet will that be any good???) If you use the metro exhaust manifold i dont really want to be cutting the bulkhead so custom mirage type i thing i think

turbo spec carb (+needle and spring) do you know of a neddle that would be good or should i just get it rolling roaded straight away and whats the difference between a n/a and turbo carb???

if i need anything else please tell me.................
You'll need a turbo, your brother knows about my turbo its a ihi something

the oil return gubbins, what are these???
you need to consider your CR, i was kind of hoping to be told what compression i need for 15psi

look at what exhaust valves, dont know what to use, was going to get sodium filled exhaust valves, can iuse second hand ones???

you are running in what type of guides, standard unless they need changing
camshaft, phase 1 turbo

gearbox, what your reccomend i think i will be using a 3.1:1 diff but that box is standard

what do i need to do about porting the head??? aswell please thank you

thanks again jack

ps anyone know if 1.5:1 roller rockers will be anygood
and how much i could get a cross pin diff and how to fit it
thanks

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it is ALL answered already.....


just_jack

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i have checked that link already and i cant find everything i would like to know
im quite sure my biuld will be one od a kind and its not going to have the answer i wouldnt have thought i would just like other peoples views on the matter
thanks
jack

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sorry chap but every question you have asked is "the basics" dont take that the wrong way, im not meening to be condecending, but every question in taht list has been discussed in detail, do your homework, if you cant be bothered spending a few late evenings reading i doubt you have the motivation to build the engine.

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On 5th Jul, 2008 evolotion said:
sorry chap but every question you have asked is "the basics" dont take that the wrong way, im not meening to be condecending, but every question in taht list has been discussed in detail, do your homework, if you cant be bothered spending a few late evenings reading i doubt you have the motivation to build the engine.


i'll let you know i built my 1330

i have looked, kind of sure i have looked for 2 nights afterwork last week, all night, which got really really boring not finding the information.

i dont want to sound like a penishead either

everything i have found out about phase 1 turbo cams is nobody uses them they go straight to the phase 2 but phase 2's are no good in a small bore,
i am going to use the phase 1 cam,
that's just an example tho

im sure there is a topic they tell you how much com/ratio you need to run x amount of boost then cnverting com/ratio in cc's needed but i cant find that either

so on and so forth
i cant think of anythink else to say now
i will just try looking again

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Try this:



And this:



You obviously have not tried very hard.

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:) .. if you are turning up no specific results for a PH1 ona small bore turbo it is very likely its because no one has tried it to date. so either be the first and share the info, or go with the tried and tested MG metro (or similar) cam.

it took me 2 years of reading this andother forums before i even started my build, You gott appreciate the same questions do get asked over and over *wink* dont take it personal! .

mite be worth making a thread on this forum similar to this on 16vminiclub.

good luck with the build :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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just_jack

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ok thanks evolution
i have read them post already
they says nothing about the phase 1 cam, i have n/a mg cam,
so if the ps1 is poo i will that
one of links has just hooked me up to wil's 20 hour conversion which has reminded me

do i want to be put a lambda sensor and gauge in my car???

thanks evolution

paul s
the charts you have done look to be bloody good
and i no i didnt find them so i musnt have looked hard enough,

will the 998 chart be the same for a 1098, if you not can you do me a quick favour and just do one for me thanks,

only kidding i wouldnt expect that,

but thanks for the linky and i wait in anticpation for your reply to the 1098 against the 998 chart

thanks alot
jack

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you want a wideband lambda and gauge in your car :) best thing i ever bought, jsut bear in mind that on an a-series the reading on teh gauge wont be exactly what is beign seen by all cylinders as AFR'd differe from inner to outer cylinders. so play it safe, but a wideband is an exxelent tool to warn you of impending doom, a £150 gadget that can very easily save your engine :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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just_jack

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i didnt think they where that much i swear i see one for like £40 about 6 months ago tho

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thatll be a narrow band setup surely? the wideband sensor alone is £60 ish not including controller and display!

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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just_jack

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mightve been that then
ta

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1098 added to calculations in "Compression Ratio and Chamber Volumes" thread.

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paul s = legend

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