Any of you guys seen this before?
Turbo Mini Forums

http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/product...y=Turbocharging

looks like it might just work to me.

yeah - think someone on here did something like that.

No idea if its any good or not.

defo somebody on here has done it. looks like lots of unnessasary (sp?) hard work to me tho.


here you go

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=8960

Edited by Carl on 15th Mar, 2009.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

its a big conversion in America, i first saw it on corvettes then a guy on here has one on his mini too..

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KOOL. i think that looks like a really simple way of doing it. Not sure on the oil situation though and i would put the air filter in the boot. hahahaha

Scavanger pumps sort the oil situation out.

Lots of piping though....

been done 4 ages!!!

oil capacity (and water if the turbo is water cooled) would be about 200 gallons though. Why do it that way? Just to avoid a different manifold and possibly a bulkhead box?

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse

they originall started doing these on drag racing cars where there wasnt enough room at the fron of the car with that big v8 and more weight over the axle made for better grip!!

and where did 200 gallons come from???

The idea comes from the states. It basically gets around some legislation not allowing you to modify before the cat (or something like that).

As I see it, it's a massively compromised setup, and pointless unless you you are forsed to do it.

So basically a great engineering solution to a problem we don't have. Keep your turbo close to your engine.

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I quite like the idea of it. Like every idea it has its good and bad points i suppose.

I like the idea of having the air filter in the boot. Would make an awsome noise!

What are the good points other than gimicks?

On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:

I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse

An air filter in the boot won't sound nice at all it will drive you bonkers not to mention the boot would have know where near enuf air vents to feed a turboed engine

Can any one tell me if all the extra pipework from compressor to inlet manifold will not give a big increase in turbo lag ?.

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Well the air has a long way to go before it get to the engine
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i thought these systems were ment to work well. plus points being, no need for a restrictive intercooler as the pipe goes under the car (no increase in lag as no intercooler) and cold air inlet as the intake is well away from the engine

I,m still learning here,so be patient.Why should an intercooler be restrictive? Surely it should be sized not to restrict?My thoughts were that if there is a large volume between the compressor and the inlet this acts as a "buffer" and would increase lag?.

There is a guy over on 16v mini who has done it on his suzuki conversion and he says it works very well.
I'm about half way through doing it to my Vauxhall conversion as there is no room in the front of the car so its the only solution. We shall see how well it works!!

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I too would have thought a lot more "lag"...

It isn't so much about any restriction (careful choice of intercooler internal sizes, pipe diameters, number of bends etc. will determine that) but simple physics of the volume of space between the compressor outlet and the engine.

The internal volume of an intercooler should be no more than the same length of pipe if it's designed/sized right.

But the bigger the volume between compressor and engine, the longer it will take to pressurise it from off boost to on boost (ie, gearchanges).

I'm sure that's being very simplistic, but it's the way I look at it. Plus then the other problems with oil, and water as well if it's a water cooled core.

Also exhuast gas temperatures will be well down by the time they get to a remote turbo and there will probably be a pressure lag on the exhaust side too ???

So, a good solution if you have to go that way, but not if you don't.....

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Spool times will most defiantly be slower, As we all know turbo’s create back pressure, If we think of this in terms of this type of instillation. Say we have a before turbo exhaust length of 4 feet + another 2 feet of primary’s and this has a diameter of 2inch then that gives us a volume before turbo of 3.7L give or take.

As opposed to the standard system with a primary of 2 feet which would only have 1L of compressible air.
Both will be compressed from the same source so it will most defiantly take longer to compress the gas in the first system before spinning the turbo that the latter. This is a simplistic view there is a lot more at play what with EGT, thermodynamic etc, etc
both will be compressed from the same source so it will most defently take longer to compress the gass in the first system

Thanks guys -more for the memory bank.

If you where to do this, could you locate the airfilter/intake somewhere near the turbo and then route the air, for example, through a scoop in the rear quater??

How efficient would this be? would you get enough air to the turbo or would it just look a big chavy mess.

EDIT: Just looked at the pics again. K&N hanging of the side...

Edited by apbellamy on 16th Mar, 2009.

Found it

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